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Post by ella1967 on Nov 9, 2010 18:16:11 GMT -5
In the sides for the 2 guys in the bar (RANDOM GUY and PARTY GUY), "Marissa" is going shot for shot with PARTY GUY and his buddies. Then, she's dancing with RANDOM GUY, spies her "boyfriend," and goes, "Oh, my boyfriend is here!" After which, RANDOM GUY jumps up and hands "Marissa" over, saying, "She's all yours." Obviously, if Owen is the "boyfriend," he's got a look of serious intimidating going on. Whew - even though I was greatly amused by my idea of Cristina as a bartender alongside Joe, until he not so gently asked Owen to get her Type-A self out of there, I'm relieved to read that this is the way the sides have read. It's not about Cristina breaking free of the confines of her marriage to flirt with random guys in a bar (no thank you haters for your jaded analysis!) but, rather, driven Cristina tap dancing as fast as she can to appear at ease with downtime, as she has in the 'make lemonade' sneak peek for this week. And by the end of this scene it sounds like we'll see Cristina pleased to see her eye-sexing husband who may just end up on the dance floor with his wife.
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Post by knl334 on Nov 9, 2010 19:36:41 GMT -5
Uh oh, he's behind stupid McSteamy! He's ahead now but still trailing McDreamy. Yeah! He's ahead of McDreamy now
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Post by ella1967 on Nov 9, 2010 23:30:01 GMT -5
Loving this, well and truly loving this. First, it shows how singularly prepared Owen is to help and support Cristina. He gets what it is to be in such a spot personally and professionally post-SF and he knows what Cristina needs. Secondly, it will give us at least a beginning of some sort of storyline for Cristina's husband and her best friend, and Meredith...(Hee.) Just like Meredith now has two people in Cristina and Derek, so does Cristina in Owen and Meredith. I think Meredith is on her way to seeing it, as she has begun acknowledging Owen as a force of good in Cristina's life. But through seeing how Cristina finds her way back through what Meredith might find an unconventional approach - simply loving and supporting his wife - Owen will be shown to be wise. And besides, shouldn't Meredith know by now that attempting to force Cristina to do anything is a sure recipe for disaster? And thirdly, this may just eventually give us further insight into Owen's, and Owen and Cristina's, past. Just as he needed the space to figure out treatment and therapy was right and necessary for his PTSD, so Cristina needs to find her own way to her path to health and recovery. Okay, and fourthly I may just enjoy seeing Cristina and Derek in this fish out of water plot. They may form a deeper detente out of it all, thus making the path for both couples to mature versions of their relationships something we can see dimly on the horizon.
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Post by katleehow on Nov 10, 2010 20:51:42 GMT -5
shli...
Thanks for the side update! That isn't too bad. I can't wait to see what happens after that...Owen dancing with Cristina...hugging...a stern, loving and concerned talk from her hubby...
I like that spoiler too about Owen liking the camping trip excursion. Interesting drama with Owen vs. Meredith on what Cristina should do now. This should give us some good scenes between Owen and Mer along with Cristina and Derek in this epi.
I have to say Shonda and Co. are doing a pretty good job weaving this storyline along with the added layers of Mer,Derek and the twisted sisters' marriages. Hoping Shonda plans to give us the " for better..." part of the C/O marriage in the second half of the season when Cristina returns to the hospital. Although, we have gotten some amazing scenes during this "for worse..." part so far...
Guessing the M/D baby story will be more prominent for Feb and possibly even May sweeps. A little part of me still believes Cristina/Owen are going to play a role in that too somehow besides Cris helping with the Alzheimer's research.
Loving devoted, married M/D and C/O!
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Nov 11, 2010 22:04:35 GMT -5
Just saw the promo and Ella was spot on LOL
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Post by ella1967 on Nov 11, 2010 22:25:57 GMT -5
Just saw the promo and Ella was spot on LOL I am surprised, but not really. Cristina's going over the edge of the cliff of having been born her rather than a simple girl and this breakdown/breakthrough has been a long time coming. She knows what she wants personally but professionally, for the first time in her life, she hasn't got a clue. And that's both terrifying and liberating. And we will see her come out the other side a stronger, more loving person who will have a more secure and balanced mojo. Can't wait!
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Nov 11, 2010 22:33:36 GMT -5
I'm not surprised either that she's going all Cyote Ugly at Joe's, but I think you have to hit rock bottom before you can get better and this is probably what is going to happen in that episode. Since we've alreayd heard that Owen is supportive of the fishing trip, its clear they don't take a break or anything, I think they are just going to come out stronger in the end
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Post by katleehow on Nov 11, 2010 22:45:22 GMT -5
LOL, I thought the same thing about Ella and shli both getting it right about next week. However, actually seeing Cristina with her hair down and lap dancing on top of another man other than Owen was not okay. It made me a bit sick which I guess was the point of that promo to be provocative with C/O, C/M and L/A too.
We didn't get a single C/O scene which I always hate because I watch primarily for them now. I would have been happy with just 30 sec. but nothing.
I just hope as shli posted earlier that Owen comes in and scares the guy away. We finally get the scene between Owen and Cristina when she lets it all out before the fishing trip with Derek.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Nov 11, 2010 22:46:57 GMT -5
Well if it was to be a huge deal they wouldn't have shown it is how I look at it.
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Post by ella1967 on Nov 11, 2010 22:54:31 GMT -5
I'm not surprised either that she's going all Cyote Ugly at Joe's, but I think you have to hit rock bottom before you can get better and this is probably what is going to happen in that episode. Since we've alreayd heard that Owen is supportive of the fishing trip, its clear they don't take a break or anything, I think they are just going to come out stronger in the end Speculating on both tonight's episode and the promo - without mentioning the episode's specifics so I won't use spoiler tags. (Mods, please school me if I've done this wrong.) I think given the discussion tonight on how those who care about Cristina want to support her eventual return to work will play a bit on Owen's true love and support of his wife and the rationale of Derek's approach having worked before so that's why Owen will support the idea of the fishing trip. Also, the promo for next week shows us a Cristina unlike any version of her we've seen before which is usually TV-speak for hitting bottom. So, I suspect Owen will see Cristina close to throwing it all away in a much more destructive and concerning way than S.6's thoracotomy and he won't in any way be backing away from his marriage, and neither will she because she is realizing it is the true source of her stability. Owen will see Cristina disintegrating before his eyes and know that forcing her back to work will only speed that disintegration. He knows they're playing for keeps with Cristina's mental health right now in a way that Meredith won't yet get. Because while Meredith knows Cristina she won't get this version of her and will think Cristina's former motivators apply in this situation - seems Owen and Derek will be the ones who get that's not true in this post-shooting landscape. And you're right that Owen and Cristina will come out the other side of it all the stronger for it. Oh, and I'm starting to slide over to the perspective more and more that Cristina will be the one leaping out of that ambulance in 7.11 having done a thoracotomy in the field - say hello to lines like 'pen trache...HOT!' and 'So!?'
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Post by ella1967 on Nov 11, 2010 22:58:30 GMT -5
Well if it was to be a huge deal they wouldn't have shown it is how I look at it. Yup! Just like they showed us a promo prior to the SF which showed Cristina breaking up with Owen. Much ado about nothing. They want to stir up dust with a promo, hence showing Cristina dressed up like a homegirl, slinging drinks and tap dancing as fast as she can to appear like she's good. Yeah right. It's worth noting they also show Lexie telling Avery it's okay to talk to her 'if that's what you want to do' with a mildly suggestive tone as he saunters toward her looking insouciant while they also show Mark and Callie disrobing and glomming onto each other. Welcome to sweeps, folks!
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Post by ella1967 on Nov 12, 2010 13:10:22 GMT -5
Giving myself a reality check as I just realized I was spending a little too much time watching CO's slow-motion version of the 7.9 promo which brought to mind doing basically the same thing last season leading into sweeps/winter hiatus. Except back then I/we were intensely dissecting the S.6 promo which showed Cristina's solo surgery paired with Teddy's ignoring Cristina's requests for assistance and then Cristina shouting at Owen to exit her OR. And we know how all that hubbub turned out - 'we matter!' followed in rapid succession by the Burke talk! So this time around, with Owen even more solidly in Cristina's corner and more emotionally healthy than he's been post-war I'm going to put on my balanced shipper hat and go pick up the boots I special ordered from my favorite shoe store rather than watch that danged promo one more time. (Though I totally thank CO from the soles of those boots for posting those promos, given my spoiler-whore status.)
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Post by kaz on Nov 12, 2010 19:58:36 GMT -5
Well done to both ella and shlii for predicting this. It does in fact seem that Cristina is both working at Joe's and drinking and dancing with a customer (who looks like he is out on his bachelor party).
I really don't expect this to cause much drama in the Owen/Cristina relationship but it is going to be a tense moment watching Owen watch Cristina so out of control.
I love that she is hitting rock bottom. It's a totally different side that we have never seen of Cristina and it makes me all the more anxious to see what Cristina is going to be like once she gets her surgical groove back as I don't expect she's going to be able to just go back to the Cristina she was before the shooting.
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Post by knl334 on Nov 12, 2010 20:57:05 GMT -5
I think you bring up a great point Kaz. What is the new improved, curred of PTSD Cristina going to be like? Owen has never quite gotten back to the first Owen we met in the SP of S5. I guess they could go in several directions if they wanted to. It think it would be really fun to see the care-free version of both Owen and Cristina together but somehow that doesn't seem like Grey's version of entertaining TV
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Post by katleehow on Nov 13, 2010 0:57:20 GMT -5
Just saw the new pic of Owen taking care of Cristina in their bathroom, I think, since I see a bathtub in the pic too, so not at Joe's. Hoping for a good talk either before or after this with a responsive Cristina not just with her passed out.
I think/hope we might get something similar to Owen's shower scene when he started revealing the depth of his trauma to Cristina. This perhaps will be Cristina's time to do that with Owen finally.
Season 7 Owen so far seems to be the closest we have gotten to Before Owen. Ah, it would be nice to have at least a couple of epis with healthy and happy C/O finishing their home, spending time on their roof terrace, sliding down the fire pole, etc...all the good, fluffy stuff. Not likely though since this is Grey's. If they are both good, we just won't get scenes with them together which is the usual Shonda way unfortunately.
After Cristina's comeback, I wonder what C/O's next hurdle will be...
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Post by Leanne on Nov 13, 2010 12:33:12 GMT -5
wow those last Promo pix really tell a story
Considering the content of the photos ... Owen looks like he is taking it all in his stride, I think a lot of hubby's wouldn't take it as well (really keen to see how he is really handling it) .... I like your idea Katleehow ~ I hope it is a similar scene to Owens Shower... here's hoping
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Post by ella1967 on Nov 13, 2010 14:02:19 GMT -5
Just saw the new pic of Owen taking care of Cristina in their bathroom, I think, since I see a bathtub in the pic too, so not at Joe's. Hoping for a good talk either before or after this with a responsive Cristina not just with her passed out. I think/hope we might get something similar to Owen's shower scene when he started revealing the depth of his trauma to Cristina. This perhaps will be Cristina's time to do that with Owen finally. Season 7 Owen so far seems to be the closest we have gotten to Before Owen. Ah, it would be nice to have at least a couple of epis with healthy and happy C/O finishing their home, spending time on their roof terrace, sliding down the fire pole, etc...all the good, fluffy stuff. Not likely though since this is Grey's. If they are both good, we just won't get scenes with them together which is the usual Shonda way unfortunately. After Cristina's comeback, I wonder what C/O's next hurdle will be... Having gotten my boots and seen more promo photos I'm back to analyzing, it seems. I suspect, as I said above on this thread, that Cristina dressing up to play bartender and acting as much as she can like she's a mall person rather than a person who's scared all the time is meant to show us she's hitting bottom and she will be ready to come back up after all her crap is laid bare. Enter the photo of Owen lovingly attending her in their pristine bathroom. (Love the black and white tile, but I digress...) I think their scene at home will be Cristina's version of S.5's shower scene and not just because it takes place in their bathroom. She will be so outside herself and inebriated besides which has been known to loosen the tongues of certain tightly wound trauma surgeons so why not cardio goddesses too? All jokes aside, I do think this is where Owen will come around to the idea of Cristina needing space around her work issues because he will see how traumatized she still is by the shooting and how she associates it with the OR. She will likely say something to him either out of anger at herself and her situation or it will slip out almost against her will as Owen's words did in her shower. (My fondest wish is that she ask him a question that addresses his experience which allows them to have a conversation that encompasses both of their issues.) Whether she starts talking out of anger or inebriation, she will begin to clear the emotional decks and having seen that Owen will know the fishing trip is the right thing for her - especially considering I think he and Derek will be hanging around Joe's after the other attendings leave that night and bro-ing it up about how their Twisted Sisters are handling this latest rift in their friendship and Cristina's workplace issues in general. Oh, and the next challenge for Cristina and Owen - I'm guessing it will have something to do with once Cristina gets back on the horse she's going to go full speed ahead but now she's a married lady...that old tricky, too quickly dealt with in S.6 concept of life and work balance will come back around. And probably because we like to layer it on thick probably some baby issues and/or Mama Hunt will come back into the picture. (Shonda did say she had big plans for Mama Hunt, after all...)
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Post by katleehow on Nov 13, 2010 19:48:34 GMT -5
ella~ You think baby issues too? I am still hoping Cris may get pregnant at the end of this season or next. I still don't think Cristina sees herself as a mother but as she gets her surgical mojo back in full force, what better to cause angst but an unplanned pregnancy especially when Mer will be trying to get pregnant. I just don't know if Shonda will go there with it being a huge part of the M/D storyline in the second half of the season. Based on her tweets, it is pretty much a given that Meredith will become pregnant sometime soon. Shonda could, but really doubt she would have both the twisted sisters pregnant together.
As for Owen's mom, would it be too obvious for her to start showing signs of Alzheimer's as Cristina starts working with Derek. So many adults have to take care of their parents today through that disease, cancer, etc..., Shonda may want to tell that story again as she did with Mer/Ellis but through Owen's mom and how he and Cristina handle it with their busy careers, etc... That could make for a compelling story in many ways: Owen who has been shown to be very close to his mom dealing with the blow, C/O trying to take care of her and be married which could cause some marital angst and this would link C/O further with Mer who has gone through this with her mom. Actually this could bond Owen more to Meredith as Cristina and Derek are now. Just think of the amazing scenes and acting we would get from KMK and SO. Surely, we will start hearing some spoilers about DM's return after the holidays. Of course, this could totally be off base and she is only on for one epi. I do hope when Owen's mom returns that we actually hear her talk and she adores Cristina!
Wow...this season truly has the potential to be the best yet for C/O...
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Nov 15, 2010 9:40:27 GMT -5
I think that there is even higher potential for O/C this season, I think this week we will be reminded of when Owen said "40 years from now I'll be prying that scalpel out of your hand" (not exact words I know) because right now he's doing the opposite, he's in the "now" trying to put the scalpel back in her hands so he can have that moment he's envisioning with her 40ish years down the road. Anyway just a thought.
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Post by ella1967 on Nov 15, 2010 17:28:35 GMT -5
I think that there is even higher potential for O/C this season, I think this week we will be reminded of when Owen said "40 years from now I'll be prying that scalpel out of your hand" (not exact words I know) because right now he's doing the opposite, he's in the "now" trying to put the scalpel back in her hands so he can have that moment he's envisioning with her 40ish years down the road. Anyway just a thought. I love this and I think part of Owen's openness to whatever will help Cristina, including a fishing trip with Derek (?), find her career center again shows just how deeply committed he is to being around for 40+ years. Which just reinforces for me, the more I think about all the hub-bub online about the promos/photos of 7.9 this episode kind of reminds me of those late S.6 episodes - 6.18 and 6.19 specifically - in which Owen was struggling with a return of his PTSD and what it meant and he, as he said in 7.2 'took it all out on (Cristina,) and she was 'patient' and she was 'kind' and this episode looks to be a reversal of that storyline. He won't be a doormat, he will be honest with her about his feelings, but he will understand where this flailing response comes from and be there to help her figure it out. And Cristina is in so much pain that she won't know what to do with it, but this episode will likely involve the ugly yet crucial process that comes from a wound that needs to see the light of day before it can heal. Love it.
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