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Post by kaz on Mar 22, 2011 21:49:39 GMT -5
PRESS RELEASE - ENTERTAINMENT - GREY'S ANATOMY: This Is How We Do It (3/24)
MARK AND ARIZONA ARE THROWING CALLIE A BABY SHOWER, BUT HAVING TWO CO-HOSTS GETS COMPLICATED, ON ABC'S "GREY'S ANATOMY"
Loretta Devine ("Waiting to Exhale," "Boston Public"), Scott Foley ("Felicity," "Scream 3"), Peter MacNicol ("Ally McBeal") and Daniel Sunjata ("Rescue Me") Guest Star "This Is How We Do It" - Richard is desperate for Derek and Meredith to accept Adele into their Alzheimer's trial, but will Adele stand in her own way? Meanwhile Mark and Arizona have conflicting ideas of the kind of baby shower Callie wants, Teddy is freaked out when Henry has another health complication -- leaving them both a little exposed -- and the competitiveness amongst the residents for the Chief Resident position is amplified when Richard receives the green light for his diabetes clinical trial, on "Grey's Anatomy," THURSDAY, MARCH 24 (9:00-10:01 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.
"Grey's Anatomy" stars Ellen Pompeo as Meredith Grey, Patrick Dempsey as Derek Shepherd, Sandra Oh as Cristina Yang, Justin Chambers as Alex Karev, Chandra Wilson as Miranda Bailey, James Pickens, Jr. as Richard Webber, Sara Ramirez as Callie Torres, Eric Dane as Mark Sloan, Chyler Leigh as Lexie Grey, Kevin McKidd as Owen Hunt, Jessica Capshaw as Arizona Robbins, Kim Raver as Teddy Altman, Jesse Williams as Jackson Avery and Sarah Drew as April Kepner.
Guest cast includes Scott Foley as Henry, Rachael Taylor as Dr. Lucy Fields, Peter MacNicol as Dr. Stark, Loretta Devine as Adele, Daniel Sunjata as Eli, Marina Sirtis as Sonya, Pej Vahdat as Tarik, Colleen McDermott as Clara, Rick Peters as Sean, Denice Sealy as E.R. Nurse, Gordon James as Desk Nurse and Payton Silver as Dr. Knox.
"This Is How We Do It" was written by Peter Nowalk and directed by Ed Ornelas.
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Post by ella1967 on Mar 24, 2011 22:47:06 GMT -5
Will be back, I think, to post a proper review but... So, in what universe wouldn't Owen have argued he had a conflict over deciding chief resident when his wife is a prime candidate? Loving how proud Cristina was of 'real dinner' pizza out of a box to celebrate her day with Owen. Loved how he tiptoed in but was also direct with the news to Cristina. Also loved how quickly she got how Owen's challenge to pick chief resident went from awesome to sucky as reality set in. She gets it but it'll be a challenge. And what round of love vs. career lessons is this for Cristina and for Cristina and Owen as a couple?
Loved Cristina and Webber in the MRI lab and also Cristina in surgery with Teddy. 'Shut up...stop acting like the scared wife...' while amusing it was a little too much muchness for me.
Okay - so shockingly enough Henry has a thing for Teddy and she's got a thing for him. Next pink bubble for Teddy.
What happened to Kepner the trauma surgeon? Now she's just hanging around peds to give Alex and Stark some drama?
Lexie and Avery smooching everywhere? Over it.
Mark moodily inserting himself into Callie and Arizona's relationship leading to, surprise, a proposal from Arizona just before the car crash? Um, sure, okay.
Meredith, Derek, Chief, and Adele discussing Alzheimer's and up pops the topic of Ellis. Oh too much history for me.
Alex and Lucy in the parking lot. Um, again, nice as it is to see Alex warming up post-Izzie, Meredith unleashing the neanderthal act history on Lucy with minimal provocation was a bit off.
Annoying Eli and Bailey - I'm the nurse and you're the doctor...but be at my house in fifteen minutes so I can show you what kind of man I am...um, 'kay.
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Post by kaz on Mar 25, 2011 0:48:11 GMT -5
Okay, not an awful episode but where the heck was Owen?? Seriously, 2x5 second scenes?? Shonda, what is that about? It had better be in the name of gearing up for some major Owen screentime in the coming episodes. Things I liked:
- Cristina rocking the surgery and her reaction to Henry's drug-induced "let's be together" rant to Teddy - The brief, brief, brieft Owen/Cristina scene at the end where we got to see Cristina happily making "real" dinner for Owen and get a little glimpse into their life together - Cristina quickly realising that Owen having to pick Chief Resident is actually going to be a bad thing for them, and not good (and Shonda not dragging that particular aspect out for weeks). - The residents all together doing the onesie decorating - Alex putting little scrubs on, Cristina doing the detailed picture of the heart, Meredith's "abstract" art - Lexie & Jackson - they make far more sense to me than Mark and Lexie - The scene with Adele, Richard, Meredith and Derek where reality finally sets in for Adele that she has early onset Alzheimer's. Such a powerful and heartbreaking scene. By far the best in the episode.
What I didn't like:
- The Chief delegating his duty to pick Chief Resident to Owen. SO CONTRIVED. It makes zero sense where reality is concerned but then again, this show is not so concerned with things that make sense I suppose. In the real world, either the Chief would never seek to put Owen in that position or Owen would say that he can't do it because it's a conflict. There are other Attendings who don't have marital ties to the residents and I'm sure are capable enough of making a decision as to who should be Chief. It's clearly just to create conflict between Owen and Cristina and I don't like it. There are other areas that they could develop to create obstacles in the relationship and lots of areas that are yet to be explored. - The April/Stark storyline. It just felt out of place and pointless to me. I'm not sure where they're taking April. - Eli & Bailey - when did Eli become such a douchebag?? I HATED the way he cut Bailey off with the patient and stepped in to assist with the medical advice. To make matters worse, he finishes the night with "I'm a Neanderthal. Meet me in my bed in 15 minutes". Ummmm, no thanks. - Alex & what's her face OB/GYN - I don't mind the 2 of these together but the way she so quickly flipped on her viewpoint about Alex didn't work. Neither did Meredith just laying it all out there about Alex's past. I would rather have seen Alex slowly reveal the real side of him as the season progresses and establish the relationship in that way. - Callie/Arizona/Mark - so sick of this triangle and don't really have the energy to get into it anymore. Also, as a pregnant woman can I just say that HOLY HELL that is one massive baby bump for 23 weeks. Everyone is different but that bump rivals mine at 40 weeks. At least make it realistic!
I think that's about all I've got for now. Like I said, not a bad episode, and there were parts that I did enjoy but the lack of Kevin throughout was simply unacceptable!
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Post by trinity on Mar 25, 2011 1:35:25 GMT -5
OK where was Kevin this episode? Blink and you missed him..Do better writers!! "Let’s hope Owen can do the same now that he’s choosing Chief Resident. Just a reminder that becoming Chief Resident has been part of Cristina’s life plan since, well, forever. Having anyone, let alone her husband, get in the way of that is FORBIDDEN. Tough times for Owen ahead, I’m guessing."
I'm quoting this from Writer's blog because there is much contradiction on this paragraph that I don't even want to start.
First of all I think Owen has the right to be let to choose the CR. For once I would like to see Owen not compromise his status in that hospital in detriment of someone else. So yeah he is in attending, a very good one and not in the last place he is a very good teacher. And most probably the Chief asked Owen to choose the CR specifically because he knows Owen does NOT play favorites. Not many on that hospital are familiar with that aspect.
Let me guess now: on the one hand this writer is saying that we'll have to see if Owen knows how to separate his life from his job (which he has actually proved multiple time), but on the other hand he is saying that Cristina will be very upset if Owen doesn't pick her, because that is her dream forever (I don't know where that came from 'cause till now all I heard from Cristina's mouth was that she wants to be the best cardio-thoracic surgeon, which kinda has not so much to do with being a CR.. Hmm am I missing something here??). So yes Owen IS in a tough spot because this is a loose-loose situation for him. Either way he will be blamed and accused for not understanding Cristina again..Whatever choice he will make he will be blamed, whether is for not being being professional, or that he doesn't want to help Cristina. Nice one writers!!
Second of all one would have to think that the traumatic experience Cristina has gone through would make her see things differently, that indeed there is much on life than the job. Guess not, 'cause what the writers are doing right now is make Cristina revert back to some old habits...All the growth she has been going through in the 1st half of the season or even more has magically disappeared, all for the sake some drama between Cristina and Owen.. They played career vs. love last season. I thought Cristina would have learned something from that. But the writers chose to forget about it.
I do appreciate though that Cristina has realized the tough situation she is in. I suspect she might ask Owen to step back from this and tell the Chief to put someone else to make the choice. And as much as I love Cristina I really don't think CR is the right job for her. She would have to deal with an amount of paperwork, make schedules, etc and I don't think that is what she wants. She wants to be in an OR operating, being CR will cut from her time spent there..
I did enjoy Cristina calling on Teddy in the OR, 'cause she indeed was acting like a scared wife. There was no need for her in that OR hovering over Cristina's shoulder..Attending or not I would have told her to get out..
As for the rest of the characters I most agree with what Ella said. As much as I enjoyed Eli till now, this episode he crossed a major line and I don't like that Bailey let him get away with it. Just because he is "the man". Yeah right....
I hope there is more in this whole Cristina and Owen situation, 'cause Cristina choosing career over Owen again is not the growing and changing and merging in the VO of SP was speaking of as she and Owen were walking on that aisle. Cristina can do more that the career thing, Owen has always tried to open up her perspective, and it's a pity that the writers chose to revert her back to that. There must be more on this story.. And I hope even more that Owen won't be again the one to be sacrificed in this story just to make others look good.
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Post by justine on Mar 25, 2011 7:55:55 GMT -5
Where was K. Mckidd ? No more than 1 min and 30 s of screen time ?!!! Well at least it was not 20 s. Though, sort of peeved me off Kim Raven has much more screen time than him, for the absurd paper husband SL who is so going to die ! Moved from Spoiler Discussion thread
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Post by ella1967 on Mar 25, 2011 10:15:04 GMT -5
Okay - a more thorough review of Cristina and Owen's scenes. Because the rest of it I already covered in shorthand up above. Cristina rocking her surgery while Teddy paced in the background was both lovely and a little weird. I loved how confident Cristina was but thought it was an, at best, tenuous introduction for Teddy's feelings for Henry. We knew they'd eventually go there because why else make Henry so romantic and winsome, but it felt a little out of place. Yet, of course, I did love how they also showed us that not only is Cristina making up for having walked away from her residency she really really is an amazing surgeon. And even an emergingly self-aware one when Owen gets home with his news.
While I call foul on this kind of manufactured ratcheting up of the tension between Owen and Cristina it's an interesting dilemma. I can imagine the chief asking Owen because he values his opinion and knows him to be an unbiased eye and a very hands on teacher who can pretty handily evaluate the residents' skills. He also knows they will listen to Owen rather than shadow him to the restroom. I can also imagine Owen agreeing because his boss, his commanding officer, has asked him to carry out a very important task.
Now before I discuss their brief conversation over 'real dinner' I must say I am loving they have a framed wedding picture in their dining room. Also, as much as I loved how Cristina and Owen flirted at work over 'I'm not getting involved/you are very beautiful/compliment my brain' it was a weird sort of precursor to this dilemma. Owen makes it clear he's not interceding with Webber on her behalf, then he reminds her he's her husband by scooting in close to her and reminding her how beautiful he finds her, and then she tells him to compliment her brain.
And then, while Cristina hands Owen a plate he shares he's charged with picking chief resident. He's got that look like he knows this news could break her heart but he doesn't shy away or keep it to himself until he won't be harshing her buzz by telling her. He just flat out presents the situation and he keeps looking at her while she processes it. And amazingly enough, they let Cristina process it. Sure, she's angry and feeling screwed in the process but they let Cristina go from 'this is awesome' to 'you can't pick me' in a split second. She may indeed be a better doctor for all she's been through in the shooting but she's also picked up some self awareness in the process of healing. She wouldn't want even the appearance of not having gotten chief resident in a fair and square manner.
And I have some speculation on how we'll see this proceed but I'll take that to the speculation thread.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Mar 25, 2011 10:59:25 GMT -5
I thought Cristina was going to have to file a missing person's report in this episode.. Typically I fast foward through the Teddy/Henry scenes this week it was even kind of a waste of Cristina, seeing that Kevin hardly had screen time in this episode made me dislike the storyline even more. Having him consistently only in two short scenes is so wrong. The upcoming s/l of him having to pick Chief resident is lazy, they couldn't come up with another attending to do the job? Stark would have even been a better choice because he would have been completely unbiased. Whatever.
But I guess we are supposed to get from this is that its supposed to be one of those 'squared' situations where Owen has to deal with Cristina not wanting to have kids and giving up his personal dream, and now Cristina is forced to give up one of her professional goals. I get the dichotomy, but its kind of ho hum for me, I am frankly getting tired of how it is always love vs. career for Cristina. She is so much more than that. I did like how he was just letting her vent to him about it, once again, communication is key but I'm not looking forward to her losing to Alex again if it comes to that. I have a feeling it will be April. I noticed the photo as well Ella, the place is really starting to look like a home though I wonder what ever happened to Cristina being a slob? I think they missed out on some great comedy there.
What I'm guessing is that Cristina will probably just feel like she's hit a plateau and not try anymore except for bare minimum which is going to be a huge step back. But I'll go to the spec thread for that theory.
Adele really broke my heart, that had to be the most well written part of the show last night. Kudos to Loretta Devine.
I was glad the Chief questioned Teddy's judgment with Henry's case. I mean what is the likelihood she'd be able to treat him AT ALL. I wasn't surprised they had her yelling at Cristina like it was her fault, I was just glad to hear Cristina telling Teddy to shut up. The only thing good about those scenes were Cristina's reactions. When she said "Shut up and be a wife" it was kind of ironic since Cristina basically has to do the same thing once the Cheif resident race winds down.
Do they have to make AZ so unbearable? Really it is like she has become a completely different character. Everything that comes out of her mouth is something shooting another person down or snarky. I think Callie deserves better than her. I knew the minute they were in the car it'd be a car crash. I liked that Mark got Callie more than AZ, it reminded me of when Callie wanted to throw AZ the surprise party and she didn't know what she would like. Mark would probably be a good husband if someone would give him a chance. Kind of silly of Lexie not to just say who it is, knowing Mark would find out anyway. Whatever. I am over Mark/Lexie and Lexie/Jackson.
So it was so obvious when Mer told the OBGYN chic about Alex's past that she'd go for it with him. Its like the OC "owen is a hurt little bird" scenario all over again.
Eli and Baliey? C'mon. Give me a break.
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Post by trinity on Mar 25, 2011 11:34:32 GMT -5
What most fans seem to be forgetting here is that being the best surgeon DOES NOT equal being the best CR. There is a lot more there than rocking surgeries. Callie is a good example is this sense, she was an excellent surgeon, maybe the best in her field, but she sucked as CR. The same with Derek, an excellent surgeon but not good as Chief of Surgery. What attracts the residents in this race is the Title, not what you get to do once you actually are a CR. There is an amount of paperwork, schedules, etc. to do.
Not all are qualified for this kind of job, no matter how good surgeons they are. Can you see Cristina spending a lot of her time in doing paperwork instead of being in an OR doing what she knows best? 'cause I personally don't. Suddenly for the writers, it seems that Cristina's dream was becoming CR, when actually it is becoming the best heart surgeon. Big difference.. But hey the "minor" details are missed for the sake of the SL.
I can understand why the Chief picked Owen to choose the CR and I do understand Owen's decision of accepting it. By refusing doing that task Owen would loose his credibility as an attending and as a teacher in front of the Chief. He will consider that Owen is not capable of taking decisions. He is after all the Head of his department, he knows he should be capable of taking decision without being biased. It's challenge for him, to prove that he can indeed make the right decisions. Why did Bailey say no? Because she knows the Chief and she can afford to talk to him in a way that Owen never could. That is the big difference. By saying "no" Bailey image as an attending will not be changed - because the Chief knows her and favored her multiple times (there I said it). Owen's credibility could be affected, even more because of his military background.
I don't understand why each time Owen has to stay aside and play nice when it comes to something work related, 'cause God forbid he would something to say in Cristina becoming a CR. I get that for some the only role Owen has to have in that show is being Cristina's husband and support her in everything without having something to say..I want to see more on Owen than that, like I want to see more in Cristina than love vs career dilemma. She is so much more than that....
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Mar 25, 2011 13:00:55 GMT -5
What most fans seem to be forgetting here is that being the best surgeon DOES NOT equal being the best CR. There is a lot more there than rocking surgeries. Callie is a good example is this sense, she was an excellent surgeon, maybe the best in her field, but she sucked as CR. The same with Derek, an excellent surgeon but not good as Chief of Surgery. What attracts the residents in this race is the Title, not what you get to do once you actually are a CR. There is an amount of paperwork, schedules, etc. to do.
Not all are qualified for this kind of job, no matter how good surgeons they are. Can you see Cristina spending a lot of her time in doing paperwork instead of being in an OR doing what she knows best? 'cause I personally don't. Suddenly for the writers, it seems that Cristina's dream was becoming CR, when actually it is becoming the best heart surgeon. Big difference.. But hey the "minor" details are missed for the sake of the SL.
I can understand why the Chief picked Owen to choose the CR and I do understand Owen's decision of accepting it. By refusing doing that task Owen would loose his credibility as an attending and as a teacher in front of the Chief. He will consider that Owen is not capable of taking decisions. He is after all the Head of his department, he knows he should be capable of taking decision without being biased. It's challenge for him, to prove that he can indeed make the right decisions. Why did Bailey say no? Because she knows the Chief and she can afford to talk to him in a way that Owen never could. That is the big difference. By saying "no" Bailey image as an attending will not be changed - because the Chief knows her and favored her multiple times (there I said it). Owen's credibility could be affected, even more because of his military background.
I don't understand why each time Owen has to stay aside and play nice when it comes to something work related, 'cause God forbid he would something to say in Cristina becoming a CR. I get that for some the only role Owen has to have in that show is being Cristina's husband and support her in everything without having something to say..I want to see more on Owen than that, like I want to see more in Cristina than love vs career dilemma. She is so much more than that.... I agree with you that being CR doesn't mean you are the best surgeon, but I think being CR also won't allow her to have as much OR time that she wants if she has to be 'in charge' of everyone. Remember when Callie had Bailey's position, Bailey ended up doing all the work. At the same time I think others won't see it this way and will look for another way to play Owen out as the bad guy again. Which is gonig to be unfortunate depending on how this all plays out.
But it is clear they just wrote it this way to create some type of conflict for OC, I just wish it wasn't so brazen and obvious
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Post by betinad on Mar 25, 2011 21:31:00 GMT -5
Ratings for this week's episode:
ABC was up across the board with Winter Wipeout climbing 5% to a 2.2 adults 18-49 rating. Grey’s Anatomy was up 6% to a 3.6 adults 18-49 rating, rebounding a bit from its series low on February 24. Private Practice was up 17% from its last original after a new Grey’s Anatomy (and up 42% from last week’s standalone at 9pm) to to a 2.7 adults 18-49 rating.
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later update on Greys numbers:
Grey’s Anatomy (61 minutes) - 10.280 million viewers - 6.7/11 HH - 3.7/10 A18-49
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Post by tanuxa on Mar 26, 2011 11:50:04 GMT -5
I agree with you that being CR doesn't mean you are the best surgeon, but I think being CR also won't allow her to have as much OR time that she wants if she has to be 'in charge' of everyone. Remember when Callie had Bailey's position, Bailey ended up doing all the work. At the same time I think others won't see it this way and will look for another way to play Owen out as the bad guy again. Which is gonig to be unfortunate depending on how this all plays out.
But it is clear they just wrote it this way to create some type of conflict for OC, I just wish it wasn't so brazen and obvious I agree, but perhaps Owen will manage to find a clever solution to this dilemma and won't be a bad guy again. Being in charge, he could ask other attendings to grade the residents according to different criteria and choose the one who gets the most points.. or something like that. and as for the rest of the epi Sandra Oh was amazing, I liked the way she persuaded the chief to let her do the surgery such that Teddy wouldn't be mad at her either. Nice moments/seconds with Owen, but too short. Liked the residents decorating baby clothes. Callie/AZ car crash was predictable, I don't know what the writers want to achieve with the stupid triangle. I don't care about Bailey, Eli, Lexie, Spark, Avery, OB
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Post by Leanne on Mar 29, 2011 16:57:17 GMT -5
Just managed to watch this Ok I think you guys covered most of it Not a great epi but I think it was just really a build up to the last scene and this weeked Musical epi
1. to little Owen although eating that pizza shot I did enjoy the way he kind of just get Cristina even in the opening scene
2. Adelle was an awesome scene re the onset of Alzheimer's
3. Irritating was Alex and the new Doc, Bailey and her Nurse, Teddy and hubby
4. would have like something more from Stark and April and not that lack of confidence on her part to predictable
5. Baby shower was a hoot wish we had decorate the onsie when I had a baby (just a pity we had to endue the triangle during these scenes)
6. yes Lexie and Avery work for me
all in all the rest of the show was just ok
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