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Post by kaz on May 31, 2009 21:21:55 GMT -5
What a terrible movie - not in the sense that it's awfully made and acted, but in terms of subject-matter it was just terrifying and horrendous. Not that I expected anything less and were it not for Kevin, I probably wouldn't have watched it (though I have seen and read Silence of the Lambs and Red Dragon). There's not alot of Kevin in this movie and the scenes of him we did have, made me cringe at the sheer deplorability of his character. However, I can't let it go unsaid that Kevin in his last scene, before getting stabbed through the head, was brilliant. Though brief, the depth of emotion was incredible.
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Post by marcy on May 31, 2009 22:01:58 GMT -5
I can see why you wouldn't like the movie, Kaz, In fact, I've heard the same from others. However, and I may be alone in this, I really liked the film from a sociological standpoint.
It fascinated me that these men, which included Kevin's character, could revert to so base a nature. The will to survive at all cost, coupled with the feeling of superiority as soldiers on the victor's side, "allowed" them to do as they did early in the film. That base nature revealed in horrendous relief, set Hannibal on a course to become what he did. I found it interesting in the way Hannibal channeled his shock and grief against how, perhaps, another child might be affected quite differently.
I also found in intriguing that, as a much older man with children of his own, Kevin's character met his demise because of regard for said children. It was a unique irony. How the roles of cat and mouse reversed in the story were compelling. I found the film to be a brilliant character study.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on May 31, 2009 22:03:01 GMT -5
This is so wierd i saw this post, the movie is on tv here right now. It just started. Wicked timing
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Post by kaz on May 31, 2009 22:20:45 GMT -5
I can see why you wouldn't like the movie, Kaz, In fact, I've heard the same from others. However, and I may be alone in this, I really liked the film from a sociological standpoint. It fascinated me that these men, which included Kevin's character, could revert to so base a nature. The will to survive at all cost, coupled with the feeling of superiority as soldiers on the victor's side, "allowed" them to do as they did early in the film. That base nature revealed in horrendous relief, set Hannibal on a course to become what he did. I found it interesting in the way Hannibal channeled his shock and grief against how, perhaps, another child might be affected quite differently. I also found in intriguing that, as a much older man with children of his own, Kevin's character met his demise because of regard for said children. It was a unique irony. How the roles of cat and mouse reversed in the story were compelling. I found the film to be a brilliant character study. I agree with everything you say and from a completely detached point of view this movie has some interesting themes and social commentaries. But I am an emotional viewer and I struggle to watch a movie without connecting in some way. It was a good movie in the sense that it did what was intended and had an impact, but I just wouldn't be able to watch it again. The subject matter of this one was just too difficult to stomach - pun intended!
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Post by Leanne on Jun 1, 2009 2:11:22 GMT -5
As a parent that whole first scene was just tragic I really struggled to watch it. Oddly the rest of the movie I enjoyed. Hubby did to and Alyssa's Godfather who read to book and then discovered I had the DVD and borrowed it just loved the movie version. Subsequently he is now an KMK fan . When Old and I were doing the fan club (before KMKonline days) and she found the movie I just knew Kevin's character would come to a horrible end.
however he and not because its Kevin but his character was the only one I felt sorry for he seemed to have turned 360 and had a family, he knew what they did was wrong he felt it via his own child, the whole finale scene of Kevin's was heart wrenching right down to his impalement
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Post by kaz on Jun 1, 2009 2:29:16 GMT -5
As a parent that whole first scene was just tragic I really struggled to watch it. Oddly the rest of the movie I enjoyed. Hubby did to and Alyssa's Godfather who read to book and then discovered I had the DVD and borrowed it just loved the movie version. Subsequently he is now an KMK fan . When Old and I were doing the fan club (before KMKonline days) and she found the movie I just knew Kevin's character would come to a horrible end.
however he and not because its Kevin but his character was the only one I felt sorry for he seemed to have turned 360 and had a family, he knew what they did was wrong he felt it via his own child, the whole finale scene of Kevin's was heart wrenching right down to his impalement Leanne, I struggle to say I enjoyed it because of what it was about and because I know the Hannibal Lecter mythology and where this all leads. But I do think it's a good movie, in a terrible terrible way, if that makes sense. Like I said, I couldn't watch it again. It just troubles me too much (which I suppose is a sign of a good movie, since I think it did what it was supposed to). Also, I agree 100% with what you say about Kevin's character in this. I really think he turned it around by the end, unlike any of the other characters. I think that because of his children, he recognised that what he did was horrible.
That's why that final scene, especially just before he is impaled and is crying was so heartbreaking. You have to wonder whether Hannibal really would have let him go had he not picked up that gun and tried to kill him.
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Post by odoacer on Jun 1, 2009 3:45:37 GMT -5
I had the same feeling, Kaz. I was sorry he did pick it up...
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Post by Geniusmentis on Jun 1, 2009 5:44:21 GMT -5
however he and not because its Kevin but his character was the only one I felt sorry for he seemed to have turned 360 and had a family, he knew what they did was wrong he felt it via his own child, the whole finale scene of Kevin's was heart wrenching right down to his impalement
I watched the movie at the cinema and I liked it, but I remember a curious thing. I wasn't already a Kevin's fan, but I remember that I hoped that his character (and only his character) was not killed by Hannibal (what a terrible death!). Evidently, he already hit me!!!
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Post by Leanne on Sept 13, 2009 13:52:00 GMT -5
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Post by kaz on Sept 13, 2009 17:08:04 GMT -5
Eek, not sure I will be starting my prop collection off with that one, Leanne, even if it was Kevin's knife!
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Post by ruralstar on Sept 13, 2009 17:49:42 GMT -5
I honestly could not sit through this film. I love a good character study but I think there is enough horror in the world without making it up. As for the prop...yeah, I'm with Kaz. Not going to start collecting with this particular item. Yikes Leanne.
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Post by Geniusmentis on Sept 13, 2009 18:18:04 GMT -5
LOL Concerning Kevin, I prefer the dvds and photos collections!! But an interesting thing, thanks Leanne.
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Post by duchovlet on Sept 3, 2012 16:09:51 GMT -5
Kmart/Sears currently has a unrated widescreen version of Hannibal Rising on sale for $4.99 in case anyone wants to snag a copy to get ready for Halloween.
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