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Post by cl3me on Apr 28, 2009 12:55:21 GMT -5
I twittered Shonda and asked whether the episode titles are named after song titles, and if they are on theme for the show. She answered that yes epi titles are song titles, picked by the epi writer, and can be on theme but not necessarily so - writer's choice.
Since there have been good correlation between song theme and epi theme so far, here's the lyrics from "No Good at Saying Sorry (One More Chance)" by Early November:
What was I to say I'm already all alone, and there’s nothing here except a hole in the wall. What was I to do and how should I know, I was never good when times are changing.
One more chance I'd never would react like this. One more time it'd be time enough to think about it. And one last straw could be strong enough to make this work or throw away everything.
It's time that I go, I can sleep on the road, it wont be soft but it will be on my own. I'm sure that last time I couldn't have been wrong, besides I’m not good with saying sorry.
One more chance I'd never would react like this. One more time it'd be time enough to think about it. And one last straw could be strong enough to make this work or throw away everything. (Throw away everything)
Just one time is all it takes one time is all it takes (Timing shows I needed to prove that I was) Just one time is all it takes, (Strong enough to be on my own) One time is all it takes (So we're taking time with bad excuses) Just one time is all it takes. ...got to show it to know that everything is all right.
One more chance I'd never would react like this. One more time it'd be time enough to think about it. And one last straw could be strong enough to make this work or throw away everything.
One more chance I'd never would react like this. One more time it'd be time enough to think about it. And one last straw could be strong enough to make this work or throw away everything.
There are a bunch of possible apologies that fit this theme: Mark/Derek Mer/Mer's Dad/Chief Lexie/Dad Callie's Dad/Callie George/Izzie and of course Chris/Owen
I do find the verse "one last strawc ould be strong enough to make this work or throw away everything" sounds like it pertains to Owen/Chris
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Post by Leanne on Apr 28, 2009 13:03:22 GMT -5
Oh that song is full of possibilities especially for O/C thanks Cl3me and nice twitter to Shonda
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Post by Leanne on Apr 28, 2009 13:47:44 GMT -5
Keep an eye on USA Today ~ Yesterday, Monday, they called for questions for Shonda from Fans see below For all you TV fans: We're also taking reader questions for Grey's Anatomy and Private Practice series creator Shonda Rhimes today. Send us your best inquiry about either show, along with your full name, hometown and a daytime contact number. We'll pass the best along to her. content.usatoday.com/topics/post/life/66081493.blog/1
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Apr 28, 2009 14:13:29 GMT -5
I asked a fwe but i doubt any will get in LOL
BTW I remember reading about some kind of admission from an intern, I wonder if this has to do with the whole speculation that Ellis and The Chief had a love child that she gave up? I think that guy that is Cristina's intern could be another long lost Grey, well I guess the Chief's kid? I'm thinking its the guy that George and Mer were interrogating about Pierce and Megan.
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Post by singer201 on Apr 28, 2009 15:50:56 GMT -5
There was a casting call for a biracial 20-something male sometime after Cristina's 4.2 showed up this season, so I don't think her intern is the one. There's been talk on TWOP that the part didn't get cast, or the casting announced, so there's some speculation that the storyline got dropped or postponed from this season. I agree that it sounded like the call was for an Ellis/Chief love-child, though I don't know how Meredith wouldn't know about it.
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Post by kaz on Apr 28, 2009 19:58:22 GMT -5
There was a casting call for a biracial 20-something male sometime after Cristina's 4.2 showed up this season, so I don't think her intern is the one. There's been talk on TWOP that the part didn't get cast, or the casting announced, so there's some speculation that the storyline got dropped or postponed from this season. I agree that it sounded like the call was for an Ellis/Chief love-child, though I don't know how Meredith wouldn't know about it. I agree that it's definitely not 4.2 - is his name Ryan Spalding, or did I make that up? Anyway, I distinctly remember that the casting side for the biracial intern in the season finale came AFTER episode 6, which was when 4.2 first popped up. Also, after the initial casting sides or casting call (can't remember what it was) everything went quiet so it was assumed that they'd canned the idea. The latest episode synopsis, however, makes it sound like maybe they've just been really good at keeping that particular storyline under wraps and they're still going ahead with it.
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Post by singer201 on Apr 28, 2009 21:37:08 GMT -5
The latest episode synopsis, however, makes it sound like maybe they've just been really good at keeping that particular storyline under wraps and they're still going ahead with it. I wouldn't mind finding out more about the Ellis/Chief relationship, though when they talked while Ellis was lucid, Richard said Meredith would have needed a brother or sister if they had made a life together. There was no mention of a given-up child which should have come up in that conversation, unless Ellis kept it a secret from Richard. That storyline could be interesting, but it would be a first that TPTB kept something so unspoiled.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Apr 28, 2009 22:30:43 GMT -5
Speaking of Ellis and the Chief I just got an email from the guy running the USA today article in charge of q's for Shonda, he wants to send her my question and asked me for confirmation I basically asked if The Chief and Meredith will ever come to terms about their relationship and his profound effect on her life. We'll see if it gets printed
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Post by singer201 on Apr 28, 2009 23:18:23 GMT -5
That's a really good question; I hope yours gets accepted and answered. Richard has always appeared to have a soft spot for Meredith because of Ellis. He's acknowledged that he helped mess up her childhood and that her presence reminds him of the tough times in his own life. There are times where Meredith seems to accept his fatherliness and others where she resists it. I would hope somewhere along the line they resolve their differences, especially since he continues to be Derek's friend. From the promos, it looks like something comes up in the next episode that blows Mer and the Chief's relationship wide open again on a professional level.
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Post by marcy on Apr 29, 2009 1:17:01 GMT -5
Having not been a regular GA viewer prior to Kevin's arrival, I have what may be a stupid question: Is there any chance that Meredith is actually the Chief's child?
Hey Rose, our resident GA expert, what do you think?
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Post by luna on Apr 29, 2009 8:07:27 GMT -5
Well, while nothing is outside the realm of possiblity in Shonda's world, I don't think so. Meredith was a little girl when Ellis and Richard had their affair. I guess it's a matter of timing, but since E and R were residents together, you have to assume that their affair did not last long enough to encompass that.
This is a hazy recollection, but Meredith even has a memory of riding a merry-go-round while her mother and Richard argue. (Again, forgive me if I'm botching that scene, but this is how I vaguely remember it.) So, the affair would have had to have been going on for a number of years in order for her to have been his child, and my impression is that it did not last that long.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Apr 29, 2009 8:57:29 GMT -5
Mer is definately Ellis and Thatcher's child. I think that episode with the merry go round was in Season 3 when all the characters had flashbacks. There was one of them meeting each other that mixer the first time and all the firs impressions they had of each other.
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Post by ruralstar on Apr 29, 2009 9:14:26 GMT -5
Very late to this whole preggers discussion and I can see you've all moved on. FTR, the idea of Cris being preggers with twins sucks big rocks IMO. As someone else suggested, I hope it's a cliffhanger that turns out to be a false pregnancy next season. I HATE the idea of an iminent child putting a time limit on Owen's recovery. Also, while I agree we need some lighter O/C moments, I love their deep, dramatic scenes. The whole 'fish out of water' idea of Cris being pregnant is as nausea inducing as pregnancy itself can be. But then I'm just a fan like all of you so....
Thanks to everyone for clearing up the idea that Meredith could be the Cheif's daughter. I wondered that myself.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Apr 29, 2009 9:25:34 GMT -5
Well I stil think she is based on Ausiello's blind item did you see that rural?
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Post by ruralstar on Apr 29, 2009 14:23:45 GMT -5
Yes I saw the spoiler. Hence my post
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Post by singer201 on Apr 29, 2009 15:39:58 GMT -5
Well, while nothing is outside the realm of possiblity in Shonda's world, I don't think so. Meredith was a little girl when Ellis and Richard had their affair. I guess it's a matter of timing, but since E and R were residents together, you have to assume that their affair did not last long enough to encompass that. This is a hazy recollection, but Meredith even has a memory of riding a merry-go-round while her mother and Richard argue. (Again, forgive me if I'm botching that scene, but this is how I vaguely remember it.) So, the affair would have had to have been going on for a number of years in order for her to have been his child, and my impression is that it did not last that long. I don't believe there has ever been any indication that Meredith is not Ellis and Thatcher's daughter. From bits and pieces picked up from watching 5 years of Greys, it's my take that Richard and Ellis met after Meredith's birth, at the beginning of their residency, and their affair continued until Ellis left to take a fellowship in Boston when Mer was 5 or 6. So by my calculations, Ellis and Richard's affair lasted 4-5 years. Comments such these reinforce my estimation: *She was the only woman and he was the only one of color in their resident class so they connected. *Richard saying in early season 1, "I used to change her diapers." *Thatcher saying to Richard at the OR board, "I used to stand here holding a crying baby and trying to figure out when my wife would be out of surgery." *Thatcher mistaking a photo of Mer at age 4-5 for Molly, his daughter with Susan (familial resemblance on father's side). *Susan telling Mer that she looks like her girls (more paternal familial resemblance). *Richard saying, "Meredith used to run around here carrying that doll (Anatomy Jane)." which Ellis gave her at age 5. *The (flashback) carousel scene with Mer around 5-6 and Ellis screaming at Richard about not leaving Adele since she had left Thatcher. Mer telling someone (Derek?) that her mother's/Richard's affair lasted all of their residency. The only way an unknown half-sibling could enter this story would be if Ellis were pregnant by Richard at the time she left for Boston, and somehow she concealed it from a 6-year-old Meredith. Since she was in a faraway city, she could have kept it secret from everyone in Seattle. The hysterical screaming in the carousel scene and the wrist-slashing Mer remembered during therapy could also go along with a pregnant Ellis' despair at being betrayed by Richard's refusal to leave Adele.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Apr 29, 2009 16:05:13 GMT -5
So Shonda must be getting fed up with OC questions she posted this on Twitter:
shondarhimes: I know you all wanna know about cristina and owen. I get it. I respect it. But I am not telling anything. Telling would ruin it. Wait.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Apr 29, 2009 16:13:25 GMT -5
Yes I saw the spoiler. Hence my post Ooooh sorry I knew you were out of town wasn't sure if you had seen it yet
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Post by singer201 on Apr 29, 2009 16:14:30 GMT -5
Re: C/O spoilers. I'm willing to wait. All the good stuff was even better when I didn't know it was coming. It's fun to have something to speculate about, but if you already know the ending for sure, where's the fun?
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Post by kaz on Apr 29, 2009 18:29:27 GMT -5
I'm actually thankful that she's holding out on us. I have a love/hate relationship with spoilers. I much prefer to be surprised but I have trouble exercising self-control and can't avoid spoilers when they are out there.
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