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Post by Leanne on Dec 13, 2008 1:51:50 GMT -5
ABC Advisory Board, which I believe is an invite only board is doing a Survey -
Wow interesting stuff.....
they were requesting answer's to questions like
would you watch the Show again after the first of 2009
why are fans unhappy about the last two season
scales with regards the direction of show, story lines and characters etc..
for those of you who frequent the ABC greys community board there is a post up....In this post it does mention that comments on the Advisory board have a huge impact on the outcome of the show...MMM sounds like with all the negative feedback the show has been getting ABC/Greys are trying to get themselves back on track..
well perhaps we should have a look and see how we feel about the show as a whole not just Kevin's role.....I know some aren't Grey's Fans or haven't been fans until now some of you are long time fans....but either way what do you actually think of all the plots and subplots, the goings on and storylines of this season - is Grey's a sinking ship - should Kevin bail out or should he stay on board
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Post by marcy on Dec 13, 2008 2:11:47 GMT -5
I only watched GA here and there until Kevin joined the cast and it is the only reason I keep watching. No one likes the Dead Denny storyline. The possible Sadie/Callie hook up doesn't work for me either. The bed hopping gets old quickly. The medical storylines are either outlandish or not fully explored. Regardless of being a fan of Kevin's, his storyline is the only one really working. It certainly looks like a sinking ship especially if ABC is doing a survey. IMO Kevin should stick it out bit longer to gain even more exposure in the US as the show's saving grace, and then bail if his contract permits.
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Post by luna on Dec 13, 2008 11:49:07 GMT -5
I have been a fan of Grey's since the third season. I got a copy of the first season and second seasons on DVD, tore through them one episode after the other in day-long marathons, and have been watching ever since. As I've said elsewhere, I even watch the reruns, and I always make sure I'm at home and in front of the television at 9:00 on Thursdays--no exceptions. Having said all that, I think the concerns are valid. There are some story lines that have seriously not worked for me over the past few years, and while Kevin's role and his love story with Cristina has completely reenergized my excitement to see the show each week, the Dizzie story line just leaves me baffled. I've read the spoilers. I know WHY it's happening, but even the explanation is not enough for me to suspend disbelief on this one. Then there's George. I think George is a solid and wonderful part of the cast, and I think it's going to be a real loss if all this talk of T.R. Knight leaving the show comes to fruition. There have been episodes this season where even with just one scene or a few lines, George has on some levels made the show (i.e. the episode where he is working on the surgical dummy). So now you have the core group of characters that we loved so much in the beginning really falling apart (George, Burke, even Addison, having left the show), and instead they keep throwing new characters at us left and right (Sadie, Erica Hahn, her replacement), and with the exception of Owen Hunt, none of them really even work for me. I think the original magic of Grey's lay in the interaction between the characters. You somehow GOT their relationships with each other, and it was fun! Now, with so many fragmented story lines and characters coming and going, that sense of cohesion has just sort of fallen apart. Characters that used to connect don't anymore, and there's no new sense of connection with the new folks. Just my long winded take.
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Post by ruralstar on Dec 13, 2008 22:26:31 GMT -5
I don't lurk or play on any ABC boards. I only started watching GA regularly at the end of the summer so I could gain an understanding of the characters and how Kevin's character might fit in. The reasons I never liked the show are the same reasons why I cringe even now: inappropriate humor, outlandish subplots and whiny characters that never seem to act in a plausible fashion.
I was linked to an article that explained why Izzy is acting the way she is. I honestly don't care. I think the character is shallow and silly. I worry that the same kind of irresponsible writing will ruin the Owen character and not give the gravity the PTSD storyline deserves. This last episode is a prime example. Owen was out of character. Kevin's ability to take even the silliest dialoge and make it fly, along with some excellent work by Sandra Oh, were the real saving graces. Yes some of the story was interesting but I see some very nasty handwriting on the wall for this series. I'm with Marcy. I hope Kevin feels comfortable working on the series for the remainder of the season, thereby getting the exposure to the US market that he richly deserves. Then on to bigger and better things. I hope Sandra Oh departs as well. Wedding bells anyone? The rest...*shrugs* I don't have anything personal against any of the actors on the show but the show itself needs some serious retooliing IMO.
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Post by Leanne on Dec 14, 2008 0:47:13 GMT -5
mmm Ive never watched Grey's before only started with this season. I had heard about it and know of many who will never miss a show if I asked them why it was always you have to see how Derek looks at Meredith, I want someone to look at me like that LOL - Ok well Ive watched and in the first part of this season I don't think we experienced that look at all. In fact I was wondering why everyone liked the Merder thing ....Its defiantly written like a soapy - think back to the young and restless, loving and All My Children all the odd subplots and bed swopping not to mention the often stupid story-line's lol dead people who are resurrected - ya see what I'm getting at.
Grey's is not awesome TV, its likable and oddly one of the characters I liked was George. Other than that I like Owen/Cristine, Mark is quite fun and Bailey of course Having a weekly dose of Kevin is one of the benefits and a plus - I will continue to watch without a doubt although I would prefer Kevin to only be in for a season and move on to head his own show and/or do some great movies. Grey's its giving him such great exposure it would be stupid for him to leave it now........and I reckon he is there saving grace
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Post by luna on Dec 15, 2008 8:25:04 GMT -5
it was always you have to see how Derek looks at Meredith, I want someone to look at me like that LOL - Ok well Ive watched and in the first part of this season I don't think we experienced that look at all. In fact I was wondering why everyone liked the Merder thing There definitely used to be a certain look that Derek gave Meredith that was completely swoon-worthy, but you are right, that part of their relationship seems to be over. Mer/Der was really compelling when they were first getting together and later when they were struggling with their relationship through a variety of issues, but now they are together and things have mellowed out a bit, and their story line is not quite the draw that it has been. Personally, I'm okay with that. I felt that their storyline was getting too drawn out. It was like, get together or don't, but stop this! So, I'm ready for Mer/Der to be drama free for a while even if I do miss that McDreamy look.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Dec 28, 2008 18:51:37 GMT -5
I've been a fan of Grey's for years before Kevin joined and was also a fan of Kevin's before I even thought he'd be on Grey's So I was ecstatic to hear he had joined the cast. I can completely understand people's concerns about Grey's quality of writing lately. It used to be very cutting edge, and the characters were very timely. That's why I think Owen sticks out as one of the only innovative storylines the show has going on right now. His story of being an iraq Vet is one that is going to continue to pop up in other forms across all media and I'm glad that Grey's took the chance and had KMK take the role.
As a long time grey's fan I think most of the problem is that the show keeps introducing more characters for short stints so I think viewers like me who are dedicated to the show are confused as to how much time they should invest in them. For instance, take Sadie, who was apparently Mer's bff before Cristina (which I find kind of hard to believe considering the visible age difference but whatever) and suddenly we are supposed to care about her and Mer's past? As if there isn't enough interesting stuff to go on. But I guess now that Meredith and Derek are together the writers are frantic about telling the story of what happens after that.
Of course Cristina's feeling displaced at this time which is perfect timing for Owen to take over. I love how complicated they are and since she isn't a typical nurturing person, I like that he brings out that side of her, and also the suttle nature of many of their scenes remind me of old turn of the century novels. I think Shonda Rimes refers to them as a Victorian romance which I can kind of understand. He's a great man, but he has a damaged soul that he wants so desperately to heal so that he can feel real again. But Owen compliments Cristina very well and I like that we see how much she has grown as a character in just a few episodes post-Burke which was just awful how they had to basically write him off the show because of the slur situation.
Another fault I also have noticed is that just when you do start investing some time into a character they leave abruptly like Erica Hahn, I was kind of warming up to her, but the show didn't make that easy because they made her very 'masculine' in a way compared to Callie. And I also hate how they have pushed other characters aside in terms of development such as George, Callie, Bailey and even the Chief to some degree. I can understand having to bring in other actors to play patients or maybe a specialist once in a while, but to have so many non-essential characters at once I think damages the credibility of a show that has been known for having such great writing and innovative characters.
One bright spot in all this is that I have seen nothing but praise for Kevin's portrayal of Owen and I think once this romance and his s/l starts becoming more developed, we will see a turn around in all the critical backlash the show is getting, especially once Denny is gone, which I can't wait for. I love Denny but this is just wrong to have him linger for so long. I think this will go down as one of TV's biggest writing foibles ever.
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Post by luna on Dec 29, 2008 0:42:04 GMT -5
I love how complicated they are and since she isn't a typical nurturing person, I like that he brings out that side of her Absolutely. This is exactly why this relationship for Cristina works so much better for me than the Cristina/Burke situation. She and Burke were like two peas in a pod--so focused on and dedicated to their careers that I never GOT what there really was between them other than work. But Owen makes Cristina softer, and it happens without being sappy or cliched or out of character. You just GET that he does it for her in some way, and you don't question that. Which is a welcome thing in a season where we are being asked to suspend disbelief about Izzy having an affair with her dead boyfriend.
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Post by Leanne on Dec 30, 2008 2:14:14 GMT -5
Greys is appearing on a whole bunch of worst TV polls or lists www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b75020_whats_worst_tv_of_2008.htmland Negative posting..... I resolve that if I can’t say anything nice about Grey’s Anatomy, I won’t say anything at all: As fascinating as I find the collapse of a show that once was at the epicenter of the pop-culture zeitgeist and as much as I can’t believe that they have completely ruined one of the show’s most beloved characters, I don’t think I can spend any more time discussing the show’s bizarre Izzie (Katherine Heigl)/Denny romance, the increasingly annoying characters (seriously is there a character more annoying than Sadie), or it’s down right offensive take on same sex relationships. Therefore, the show is going to get the silent treatment from me in 2009 . . . beginning now. Yeah, I’m curious how long I’ll be able to keep that resolution too. Anyone want to start a pool on that one? blog.zap2it.com/tvgal/2008/12/you-know-how-so.htmland a whole lot more if you subscribe to Google alerts for GA you know what I mean Luna and marrymeowen : I have to agree Owen and Cristina have a softness together ~ Kevin does romance well, you just have to look back at some of his older work like Rome and Gunpowder and you can see it hes often a slow starter and sometimes you dont even notice him in a movie then all of a sudden he explodes on the scene and you sit up and take notice after that you never forget him ....I reckon the best is yet to come if KMK acts true to form
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Post by snowbound on May 9, 2009 9:54:45 GMT -5
The ABC Studios Advisory Panel is recruiting new members to it's invite- only board. They have frequent polls about different shows and characters. This week's poll is all about Grey's and asks several questions about Owen Hunt and Owen and Cristina's relationship. Here's how to join (and hopefully make an impact where it counts!)
So with ABC's express permission to post the link, I hereby invite you to join and participate. Have fun.
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Post by marcy on May 9, 2009 17:12:56 GMT -5
They didn't want me.
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Post by Geniusmentis on May 9, 2009 17:48:58 GMT -5
should Kevin bail out or should he stay on board [/i] comment below [/quote] Are we joking???!!! I've never watched Grey's before, I only started with this season and there is no Grey's Anatomy for me without Owen Hunt!!
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Post by cl3me on May 10, 2009 8:55:08 GMT -5
I was a dedicated fan 1st and part of second season, but then they started to lose me as it started to feel like I was watching 90210. The medical cases had more drama and intensity than the main characters. They really lost me for good when they turned George, who was one of my favs from the start, even more pathetic when he went from longing from Mer to longing for Izzie. I think that is why I don't really review the rest of the storylines with as much passion.
The show is in a bit of a crisis I think. Half the fans prefer the soapy high school who's having sex with who version of the show, the other half prefers the deeper character study and drama with Owen/Chris. I am glad I caught the season opener this year otherwise I would have missed this. If they lose Heigl and Knight, the risk losing the original fans, but then it also creates opportunity to take the show in a new direction. I think the season opener of the hospital dropping in the rankings also reflects what is happening to the overall show. I think the producers are asking the same question - how do we get back to #1. They know changes need to be made, but not sure of how to get there. Owen pointed it out to the chief (forget what epi) that everyone is focused on their own personal stuff instead of the medicine and teaching. They've been trying to introduce new characters this season and the only ones that have stuck are Owen and Arizona. I think we are going to lose Heigl and Knight for next season, but they are still trying to fill the void and don't know with what yet. Poor Christina still doesn't have a heart surgeon to mentor. I think we will see a few new characters next season, the question will be whether they will be characters with depth or more eye candy like Sloan. As long as Owen is there, I will still tune in, I'm just hoping they give me few more reasons to tune in.
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Post by Leanne on May 13, 2009 2:29:56 GMT -5
They didn't want me. So far everyone I have know to try has gotten the same responce ......
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Post by kaz on May 13, 2009 2:35:49 GMT -5
I signed up a while ago. I'm not sure what it was about me that made me acceptable LOL.
Anyway, I've done the survey and sung Kevin's praises. I know I'm not alone.
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Post by snowbound on May 13, 2009 7:23:09 GMT -5
They didnt want you guys? Seriously? Hmmm. I'd try again if I were you. Maybe during the slow summer months they wont be as picky as right now, during sweeps. They are looking for their age demographic I assume of 21 -45 year olds, or so, who also watch a few of the ABC shows. But I dont watch many of them and I didnt embellish that. I did make clear that I post about a few shows on a variety of boards (which is true) and that I post often. I imagine they like that. Keep us posted.
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Post by Leanne on May 13, 2009 11:01:35 GMT -5
Thank you for your interest, but we are not currently in need of additional applicants matching your profile. Ok apparently this is what everyone gets back ~ no questions asked just determined by IP address People outside of the US I understand but how would they know Marcy didnt fit there demographics ~ otherwise they must have a physic system LOL I want that system ;D ok but apparently if you try again it say something to the effect of no you've tried before...ba humbug
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Post by duchovlet on May 17, 2009 23:37:03 GMT -5
Thank you for your interest, but we are not currently in need of additional applicants matching your profile. Ok apparently this is what everyone gets back ~ no questions asked just determined by IP address People outside of the US I understand but how would they know Marcy didnt fit there demographics ~ otherwise they must have a physic system LOL I want that system ;D ok but apparently if you try again it say something to the effect of no you've tried before...ba humbug I get a thank you for your interest but no thanks when I try to join. Does one need to be logged into the ABC boards first to get a better response? If its true that they just go by IP that is stupid. Like music ratings only taking into account mass markets and not smaller ones. Would not surprise me if it is done in this manner, however. Nielsen and all other rating systems are all in need of revamping.
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Post by kaz on Aug 6, 2009 17:00:32 GMT -5
The ABC Advisory Panel has an another poll:
"Best of '08 - '09 Television" Awards Panel Event
SO GO VOTE for Owen & Cristina!!!
They are up for a few awards, one of them is the "The "Mc" Steamiest Moment Award (Best Kiss / Love Scene)" for ELL Love Scene!!!
Owen and Cristina are one of the couples in the "made for each other category"
Also, the category "I laughed I cried so hard" - Cristina and Meredith running upon seeing Owen!
abcstudios.brand-advisor.com/app
thanks cocrazy for the heads up keep us informed of the outcome
(posted by Leanne in a separate thread)
FYI, I've modified the title of this old thread so that it can be the place where the Advisory Board stuff goes. It was already here, just not so easy to find. Please post any further polls etc in here so it's a one stop shop.
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Post by kaz on Aug 7, 2009 0:27:30 GMT -5
I voted.
Owen and Cristina are ahead so far of Meredith & Derek for best love/romantic scene. Owen is winning the "Where have you been all my life?"/ best new character category. I think they feature in a couple of other categories and they are either winning or close to.
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