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Post by Leanne on Mar 31, 2011 5:21:14 GMT -5
"Song Beneath the Song" - In a series first, the music that has been at the heart of the show and been beloved by fans comes to life for Grey's Anatomy: The Music Event. A cataclysmic event rattles the doctors of Seattle Grace to the core, as Callie, on the verge of an enormous life-changing moment with Arizona, envisions her hospital and friends as it has never-been-seen before. "Chasing Cars" (Snow Patrol), "How to Save a Life" (The Fray) and "The Story" (Brandi Carlile) are among the songs performed by the cast in one of the most special hours of "Greys Anatomy" yet, THURSDAY, MARCH 31 (9:00-10:01 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network. this thread will be locked until episode airs... thread unlock.. enjoy the show!
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Post by ruralstar on Mar 31, 2011 21:25:51 GMT -5
No spoilers from me. I thought it was a good show. Lots of drama with one good comedic/sexy montage to lighten the mood. I wouldn't want a steady diet of this type of material but as far as experiments go I think it worked. Sara Ramirez has a phenomenal voice. This was her moment to shine as Kevin has told us more than once. Loved Kevin's singing as well. Just wow. I think we could have done with a couple less songs and a few less voices in some cases but I give tptb credit for trying to get everyone involved in a plausible fashion.
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Post by hopew on Mar 31, 2011 21:41:13 GMT -5
No spoilers from me. I thought it was a good show. Lots of drama with one good comedic/sexy montage to lighten the mood. I wouldn't want a steady diet of this type of material but as far as experiments go I think it worked. Sara Ramirez has a phenomenal voice. This was her moment to shine as Kevin has told us more than once. Loved Kevin's singing as well. Just wow. I think we could have done with a couple less songs and a few less voices in some cases but I give tptb credit for trying to get everyone involved in a plausible fashion. Totally, totally agree, with everything you said.
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Post by ella1967 on Mar 31, 2011 21:55:49 GMT -5
Well, wow, I guess is the appropriate response. * Edited after having slept on it so can write a more formal review. Alex was incredibly focused on doing the work before but here he asked Addison if she needed him and went to Arizona, sitting alone in the gallery. He is such the complete package these days. Interesting that he also gave Lucy some perspective on the helipad.
As much as I hated the energy around Mark and Arizona's fighting I got it. They were both so darned scared yet by the end they truly came together around Callie and the new little life in their hands.
The bookend for Lexie being the one to comfort Mark and yet knowing he has his own journey to take, being a parent and supporting his new family with Callie and Arizona, so she stepped back into her own life. I wasn't expecting Avery to make his case for their relationship after all the shower smut and making out but it gave it an interesting solidity.
The sneak peeks had me thinking the OR scenes with everyone singing and working together would be just plain weird. There was still weirdness but I liked how it was all about them becoming a team together to support one of their own. (Of course, the highlight was Owen and Cristina being their own little OR team of love, support, and encouragement, but I digress.)
I liked Meredith trying to make sense of things in the elevator with Derek. I also loved how she told Cristina to be Callie's baby's godmother. Meredith finally faced some of her feelings and came out more grown up for it. Though am still confused slightly by Derek's comment that he'll do what it takes to get them a baby. Though rumors have been swirling about what that story's next phase will be...
I liked the silly and romantic fantasy sequence. The episode needed a little light. And come on with that sexiness, huh? Even as out of context as it was it still sweet, and fun, and sexy and gave us a much-needed breath of fresh air.
Even though it was expected, I liked watching Callie wake up at the end cogent enough to accept Arizona's proposal. I found it sweet that Arizona was describing their tiny little girl and how wonderful she is at the point at which Callie awoke.
The triangular facets to Owen, Cristina, and Teddy's storyline were there but meant to be this season's red herring, IMO. We are being lead full circle this season and what we saw was a long-brewing conflict between Cristina and Teddy finally sparking alongside an Owen and Cristina who are moving into a future together. Cristina and Owen's approach to conflict is changing - sure, sometimes they struggle, i.e. 7.16, but they are also learning to come out the other side of it together.
It seemed jarring for Teddy to pull the husband card in that exam room. It was interesting juxtaposed alongside Owen's obvious pride in how Cristina made her case and his also obvious surprise when Teddy shut Cristina down. Likewise heavy-handed was Teddy's confrontation with Cristina later in the episode. I get that Teddy's put a lot of effort into teaching Cristina and she feels disrespected. Yet it's only partly about Cristina's behavior in that room, I think, as what really seemed to anger Teddy was Owen and Webber's behavior in the OR.
But what I truly loved about that OR scene was the way Owen and Cristina came together. They had their own shorthand, they were in their own bubble of encouragement and belief in the other. Neither bore any grudges toward the other regarding Cristina's pitch of the procedure and being denied earlier. They were professionals who love each other and reminded each other of that in a heightened professional moment - much like the SF of S.6.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Mar 31, 2011 22:59:18 GMT -5
Have to watch this again to fully comment, because in some of the scenes the songs were too distracting. Ok well I liked the first half of the episode but the songs were just kind of distracting during the major surgery sequence. I thought Sara, Kevin and Chandra were amazing Loved them all during the first sequence together then the light sexy scenes were obviously great. Loved that we got some good OC scenes I wasn't expecting a sex scene when I heard make out session so that was a nice thing. Kevin should be shirtless and sing in every episode LOL As far as content goes I gotta say tonight it was great to see how Cristina really shifted from being all about the surgery to being all about the patient. Callie and the baby were in dire need of something, and Cristina racked her brain researching how she could save them. It wasn't about oh let's do this innovative procedure for notoriety. It was about the patient and the baby alone. I was not surprised at Teddy's reaction, though would Teddy have really wanted the blood on her hands if Callie didn't make it? Seems like the main issue with them is Cristina is driven academically as much as she is by surgery, but when you combine that with actually caring about a patient, she is almost a triple threat. I think because Teddy isn't an academic, she was very threatened by Cristina which is no surprise but did she have to pick this situation to be a control freak in Cardio? I was a bit annoyed that Owen sided with Teddy though I understood why he did it. In the end I loved how everyone went to bat for Callie and supported Cristina, couldn't belive that Richard actually had to yell at Teddy to get her to step away. Though it did kind of irk me when Teddy claimed Cristina didn't want to be taught so she doesn't listen, I think it is the other way around, Teddy also has to be able to listen to her students when they have suggestions whether or not she thinks its a good idea the goal is to save lives, not prove a point to your soon to be ex student. Could have done without the staring of Teddy to Owen during the "Lost a friend" line, but whatever. At the same time I think this might be a set up for Teddy to leave the show depending on what happens when trauma counselor guy shows up and if Henry dies. I can't see how there is really a need for Teddy if Cristina is beyond her expertise level. Mark made me laugh when he was singing and also when he said to AZ about they can make their own kid or something to that effect LOL Other than that I think that the episode could have had less songs, and done away with some of the scenes like Teddy/Henry that was just kind of stale and in some parts I thought the music drowned out what was going on in the surgery. Though for what it was, it was not as bad as I thought, but not the best. I guess I'm 50/50 on it. Kevin being on the top Sara Ramirez was on the top of her game for sure
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Post by marcy on Apr 1, 2011 0:05:01 GMT -5
Liked it but, yeah, Rural, a steady diet of it wouldn't work. And I wish he'd been allowed to do more. But that 30 seconds made it all worth it...y'all know what I'm talking about.
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Post by karen on Apr 1, 2011 0:24:54 GMT -5
I'm posting my first reaction in this Kevin friendly relatively private space so I can speak freely: from the time they cut Kevin's beautiful, exciting 4 minute song to 30 seconds, they completely SCREWED Kevin this episode. They had him help pitch the show, they had him do press for it (and led Owen/Kevin fans to believe we would get to see an adequate about of him on screen), he sang beautifully and YET -- while allowing lesser singers to have almost whole songs, they majorly CUT "How We Operate" ?? Not to mention there is a line in there that is perfect for a dual meaning in an operating scene with Cristina "there is no line that you can't step right over". COME ON, after a season of neglect we can't get ONE LINE that expresses his deepest feelings about her? And we all know no one will remember that he backed Cristina's idea in the end -- Owen (and most likely Kevin personally unfortunately) will be bashed for Owen's not backing her in the first place. It was the first time in all these 3 seasons I felt Owen was made to look like an ass (yes, that's how big of a fan I am so you know what they just did was bad.) Yet another out of character moment in that you could see Owen agreed with Cristina. And to dredge all that useless Teddy annoyance and character assassination up again when half the fans abandoned OC because of it last season makes me want to cry. The sex scene would have been great if it hadn't basically stated the fact that this show sees all couples the same -- CO are not the same and if that's the way the writers see it now (as opposed to how they saw it in Season 5), then the best thing Kevin (and Sandra) can do is leave this show as soon as possible. I am the biggest, nuttiest Owen/Kevin, Cristina/Sandra and C/O fan there is, but this was pretty much the last straw. I think they killed the CO we all fell in love with. Forgive my rant and I hope I feel better about it tomorrow. {modified to add the spoiler tags}
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Post by trinity on Apr 1, 2011 2:22:04 GMT -5
I'm posting my first reaction in this Kevin friendly relatively private space so I can speak freely: from the time they cut Kevin's beautiful, exciting 4 minute song to 30 seconds, they completely SCREWED Kevin this episode. They had him help pitch the show, they had him do press for it (and led Owen/Kevin fans to believe we would get to see an adequate about of him on screen), he sang beautifully and YET -- while allowing lesser singers to have almost whole songs, they majorly CUT "How We Operate" ?? Not to mention there is a line in there that is perfect for a dual meaning in an operating scene with Cristina "there is no line that you can't step right over". COME ON, after a season of neglect we can't get ONE LINE that expresses his deepest feelings about her? And we all know no one will remember that he backed Cristina's idea in the end -- Owen (and most likely Kevin personally unfortunately) will be bashed for Owen's not backing her in the first place. It was the first time in all these 3 seasons I felt Owen was made to look like an ass (yes, that's how big of a fan I am so you know what they just did was bad.) Yet another out of character moment in that you could see Owen agreed with Cristina. And to dredge all that useless Teddy annoyance and character assassination up again when half the fans abandoned OC because of it last season makes me want to cry. The sex scene would have been great if it hadn't basically stated the fact that this show sees all couples the same -- CO are not the same and if that's the way the writers see it now (as opposed to how they saw it in Season 5), then the best thing Kevin (and Sandra) can do is leave this show as soon as possible. I am the biggest, nuttiest Owen/Kevin, Cristina/Sandra and C/O fan there is, but this was pretty much the last straw. I think they killed the CO we all fell in love with. Forgive my rant and I hope I feel better about it tomorrow. {modified to add the spoiler tags} Karen I do understand how you are feeling, I really do, but that sex scene was Callie's fantasy, so it was all presented from her POV. She sees them as another couple who love each other and who got married. I had no problem with that scene, I liked it very much, was one of my favorite moments.
I do agree with you that it annoyed me a lot that they cut so much from Kevin's How We Operate, it was a great loss... Kev's version was absolutely amazing and yes that line would have been the perfect fit for Cristina and Owen.
I for one understood perfectly why Owen didn't agreed at first with Cristina's procedure, not because he wouldn't trust her skills but because it was a very very risky procedure and it was Callie's and her baby's life at stake, though Cristina's focus was 100% on the patient not some academic achievement. The ones that will bash Owen again, they have done it till now and they will do it from now on no matter what Owen will do. That's a fact. I think he made responsible decision, no matter how much some people will try blame him again. He knew when to tell Teddy to stop and he fully backed Cristina up in the OR. I think for Owen there is always that concern not to play favorites with Cristina just because she is his wife and he loves her so much. So from a medical POV Owen's judgment was the correct one. It's very easy to judge when you are not in that position of making the right decision. And yes, you can see on his face how proud he was of Cristina when she presented her procedure, even though he didn't picked that one at first. To me that me this only proves one more time that Owen can separate his personal life from his professional one.
I do agree with you that Kevin has helped them a lot with the episode and promoting it and yes he was underused again.. That makes me vary and angry at the same time.
I maybe be in minority here, but all in all I really did like the episode. And I usually don't like musicals at all. Not something I would watch every week, but for a one time it was good. There were some things that didn't work for me like Teddy and Henry during "Runnin' on Sunshine", they had no place there, neither Mer and Derek's scene from the elevator. I though it was very forced. At least Mer spilled out loud what I have already knew that she was indeed jealous of Callie..
But Sara and Kevin (with what he was given) owned this episode and did a great job, I especially loved Sara's The Story very beautiful and touching.. And Chasing Cars too. Not sure yet how I feel about How To Save a Life though, maybe too many voices and was a bit distracting.
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Post by agneskenya on Apr 1, 2011 9:22:37 GMT -5
Overall I enjoyed it, but some moments were very awkward. As for KMK, I have to say that I was VERY happy about his performance of "How we operate" but I was VERY angry at the "How to save a life" part. Too many people were singing, and they had masks on, which didn't help. It distracted me from the surgery AND what kills me is that I've seen KMK, CW and DJ sing it on a recording video, and it was awesome. In the ep, it wasn't as good, and it hid KMK's amazing voice on the line "I would have stayed up with you all night". He rocked the song, but we simply couldn't hear it in the ep...
About the rest, GA took a risk, and all in all, it was well done. There were moments where I really felt the pressure, but with the singing, it was a different pressure than the one I usually feel in major surgery moments. At least, I did get to feel SOMETHING. I hope we'll get to see more of KMK on the DVD...
Loved that Owen did what he's best at: went with the hierarchy, but when that didn't work, he went directly for option B and what Cristina had proposed. Awesome moment, and totally in character for him, so I certainly hope there will be no bashing. If there is, it's because those people don't see further than the tip of their nose.
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Post by Leanne on Apr 1, 2011 15:50:18 GMT -5
first and foremost there is some awesome talent on that show .. I personally cant falter any on there singing ability Im still not a musical show person I find it odd or awkward when they just break into song (look a stage show works but a movie I battle with)It took time for me to get my head around it once into it tho I was fine. I cant say to much about the storyline I think I was so listening to the songs I missed most of it, yes I got the drift but i remember the singing above the sl if that make sense. Love the music choice to ... I think it would have been quite heart rendering and dark if they didnt sing... It wasnt bad at all I did enjoy it and I really take my hat off to them for doing the show ... to taking the chance and for all those who took part awesome I hope it does something for a few of those singers careers ~ kudos to them all from writer to actor nothing like taking a chance in life of course O/C scene was most memorable ;D If the CD came out I would definitely buy it
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Apr 2, 2011 22:29:12 GMT -5
I will just say after a second viewing, that I was again disappointed on how much the major surgery scene was drowned out by the music. I have always thought that whoever does the sound mixing on the show does a horrible job because the music always swells over what the actors have to say.
Again, the people I knew would be good (Sara, Chandra and Kevin) were amazing, and on the other hand I thought the rest can hang up their mics. I appreciate the hard work every one did but it really showcased just how crowded the cast has become and I felt that some of the numbers were really unnecessary.
My favorite parts are still the Owen stand alone parts and the Owen/Cristina bits, and the showdown with Cristina and Teddy in which I thought Teddy actually overstepped the situation by becoming a dictator. Still loved when Richard yelled at Teddy, though she kind of is screwing with Cristina's future by refusing to teach her in her last year of residency. I kind of wonder if this is gonig to force Cristina to start looking for a program that can support her. But to me as I said before it is looking more like Teddy will be leaving, seems like the writers are writing her into a corner. Bring back Tom Evans I say, heck even Burke would be welcome back for me by this point.
I really have to say how disappointed I am in the characters Lexie and AZ and what they have become. AZ has become a passive-agressive control freak over night and Lexie is suddenly turning into Meredith as far as relationships go. Took me a long time to get to a place where I could say I liked these two now I just can't stomach either of them. Also Jackson kind of lost what respect he had from me by how he snagged Lexie. Also, I love Addie, but thought the confrontation between her and OBGYN girl was kind of unnecessary, as was Addie's presence in general. I wish they would stop using GA to promote Private Practice. Ah well that's Shonda folks.
So in effect I still stand by my 50/50 on the episode comment. The parts I didn't like kind of out weighed what I did like, but they all get an A for effort. I just hope Shonda doesn't decide to do another one.
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Post by cl3me on Apr 3, 2011 12:56:46 GMT -5
Wow. I thought it was well done - had so much risk for something like this to fall flat. It was like having a live soundtrack. The scenes where Callie was "watching" as in an out of body experience and signing worked very well, however, when the other docs were breaking out into song I found it distracting. I like how the arrangement of the music suited the mood of the scenes - they weren't necessarily trying to go a cover version of each song. The scene where Cris is pitching her idea to Owen and Teddy - I think Owen wanted to go with Cris, but didn't want to step on toes - I think he was hoping Teddy would come to the right conclusion on her own. Not sure why Teddy took such a stubborn postition cuz usually she's open to try new. She should trust Cris by now too. Love that Kevin can sing ballad Chasing Cars and can rock it out in How we Operate. Is there anything he can't do? ? I thought it was great. I hope there is an extended version on the DVD cuz I'm thinking I might buy this season esp if there's some extras of this ep.
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Post by betinad on Apr 3, 2011 22:23:23 GMT -5
ok, these are my feelings about the episode : I am in a 50/50 opinion. For me, sometimes the songs were too distracted from the story.
Also I found that the songs were used sometimes as Callie's out of body experience, sometimes as soundtrack, sometimes as just as musical. it seemed all over the place.
Songs and singers? I loved Chasing Cars! Sara and Kevin voices together is pure gold. I think the show could do it better with a few less songs, and I have to say (May be in a minority here) that How to Save a life was not a good fit for Kevin's voice, and I hated it when they have the doctors singing behind their masks. I would enjoyed it much better if they used it as a background song .. that distracted too much from the seriousness of the situation at hand.
Storyline? I am getting bored with C/A/M storyline. Wasn't interested in the beginning, now is taking too much air time. Cristina/Owen : I liked their interactions during the episode, those little looks between them that made them... great. Those two have chemistry to bottle and sell (as they have shown again .... wow, hot!) Mer/Der elevator scene, I understand the purpose of it, but found it a little forced in the episode.
Owen/Cristina/Teddy interaction: I think Cristina needs to polish the way she presents her cases. She is a great surgeon, genius even, but often the way she speaks, makes the people feels attacked. I understand Teddy's position of not risking something completely new on Callie. And even when Cristina said that she was not asking "her husband" but the doctor in charge, the way she asked was opposite to what she was saying. If instead of Callie this was any other patient, we will have Cristina driving Owen crazy for hours!
I am glad that Owen - once again - showed he is a great doctor and teacher and change courses , not thinking on who to please, but to save Callie's life.
I am only hoping that Teddy's "I cannot teach you" dont trigger other Hann's type of episode (am I writing her name correctly?) .
Crossing my fingers for a good 4 last episodes and tons of Owen/Cristina airtime!
(oh, and by the way, listening How to Operate again ... of course I purchased some of the songs ! - and yesterday, Chasing Cars was number 52 in the itunes US rating ..... Kevin, you made us all so proud!! ;D
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Post by Leanne on Apr 4, 2011 4:15:52 GMT -5
I have to agree with Cl3me the singing was fine if it was Callies out of body experience ie her singing or her dream sequence the odd part was doctors bursting into song while operating .... took a bit of getting used to ...
wow Betinad #52 how awesome
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Post by georgeseurat on Apr 4, 2011 18:06:03 GMT -5
Haven't written a review on this show for so long, but I definitely want to write something about this episode (sorry, but musical is my domain ). Severely dislike the direction of this episode. Well, yes, I know they try to make the songs as commentaries instead of actually lines sung by the actors/characters, but some songs just didn't even work in the storytelling.
I love how it opens with the first song by Sara, Kevin and Chandra, and hell, you can hear that they are classically trained, especially Sara (I mean, she was the Lady of the Lake in Spamalot, and Petra in A Little Night Music) and Kevin (with distinct intonation). I'm very glad about their performances. The trio in the beginning gave me hope on this episode, thinking that if they do the songs in such way, this will rock. Boy, was I wrong.
The songs in the middle fell flat, poorly written (sorry, should be they felt poorly written with the drama going on). Some even doesn't fit the purpose in the situations. Musical Writing 101: There has to be a purpose for the character to sing that song, and the audience need to see the urgency for that song, or else, there's no need for a song. The only one song by Owen... well, I don't really like that song, and yes, cutting it into pieces is even worse. I rather watch Kevin complete the whole song. I mean, that's a lament. How can u cut a lament? Would Sondheim cut Sweeney Todd's Epiphany in pieces, dump a bit, and focusing on Joanna having lunch in the middle?
After half way through, I only focused on the performances instead of the songs. The rest of the cast? Nearly invisible (in voice-sense), or... let me put it this way... they don't know how to sing. Till the end, it's still the three I mentioned are the best. The last song though is by far the best among all songs, very catchy. Finally a song that shows Sara's technique as a Broadway performer, and surprising a better directed sequence. I don't know, maybe it's because Sara's is just AMAZING! So, yes, this episode did nothing to me, except hearing Sara and Kevin sing is just a treat! Also, revisiting Sara's singing urges me to watch this back. Anyone who hasn't watched this, be amazed!
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Post by kaz on Apr 7, 2011 1:00:27 GMT -5
Hi guys.
First time back on the forum since baby arrived and just sneaking in here to give you some quick thoughts while he sleeps this afternoon.
I watched the episode in a bit of a post-hospital-stay haze so I need to go back and rewatch it but on the whole, while I enjoyed hearing and seeing Kevin sing and think there is some amazing talent on the show, the episode was just a little too weird and cheesy to me. The random breaking out into song just didn't work and I found that it detracted from the storyline which should have actually been quite intense.
When I get a chance, I will go back and view it a second time and perhaps change my mind on things but for now I can't really comment on the storyline itself because I was too distracted by the musical aspect and not really paying attention to anything else.
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