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Post by mesilla on Aug 31, 2012 18:11:53 GMT -5
I am soooooo excited that Mr. Feeny is coming back! I speculate that he will help Cristina realize something...gain perspective on something. My question is...perspective with what? Family? Career? Kids? Owen? Can't wait to see!
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Post by mesilla on Sept 1, 2012 7:41:57 GMT -5
I hope for EVERYTHING. I think he really could be a father figure she has missed since she was a little girl.She didn´t really have a close relationship with her stepdad, did she? Although she called him(we don´t really know his character´s name) a freaking fossil at the boards and behaved way overboard, but in 822 after the boards I felt she regretted not showing respect for him a little bit, as they were all sitting on the curb. She admitted she went way overboard. I think she did. I have to go back and watch that one though. Cristina, so often, does not take the time to think before she acts. I feel this way because she has done this time and time again, but we know she is not a monster. The first time I really saw her slow down and really care about another person is when Owen came is season 5. Before that she was "I only want what is best for me" person. I sorta dont think he will be a mentor. I think he may be a patient...a lonely patient. I can foresee a speech like: "This is what you have to look forward to. Old age, illness, and young, hot surgeons who think you are an idiot."
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Sept 1, 2012 12:52:29 GMT -5
I think he will be a father figure type for Cristina, and for once it won't be attached to some kind of physical realtionship like in the case of Marlowe or Burke so she might actually take away something from it and not be in a competition per se. Either way he saw something in Cristina that day, and i am sure it'll transfer into s9 and hopefully have a positive effect on her relationship with Owen
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Post by trinity on Sept 1, 2012 14:34:13 GMT -5
I sorta dont think he will be a mentor. I think he may be a patient...a lonely patient. Shonda doesn't have the habit of using the same actor for different roles in the same show. She is very specific when it comes to her guest stars. So I don't think he will be a patient. He might not be exactly her "mentor" (I personally consider that Cristiana doesn't need a mentor anymore), but I think he played am important role in offering Cristina the job at Mayo. Even if his part was not very significant in the last season's episode, I actually like his character very much and his interactions with Cristina. I believe and hope he will have a positive influence on Cristina.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Sept 1, 2012 21:01:04 GMT -5
Its like how Owen sees so much potential in Cristina as a person that she doesn't see in herself yet because she's been so influenced by Meredith's opinion of her. I think this character will bring that potential out in Cristina if they write it correctly, especially since she will be physically away from Meredith
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Post by trinity on Sept 2, 2012 10:28:16 GMT -5
I've been thinking about the idea that Mer will be channeling Ellis in her angry reaction to the plane crash, Lexie's death and Derek's injury. It has always seemed to me that Mer had a lot invested in Cristina being the "new Ellis." IMO it's one of the several unhealthy aspects of their friendship - - it's as though Mer is trying to get a "do over" of her terrible relationship with her mother by having a close relationship with an "Ellis-clone." (Whether Cristina really IS the new Ellis is a separate discussion - - before last season, I would have said absolutely not, but after some of the things she did during S8, I'm not as sure.) But the point is that we've been told repeatedly that Mer sees Cristina as Ellis-like. And Ellis's marriage to Mer's father was, as we know, a total failure. Maybe on some level Mer needs Cristina's marriage to fail as well? Maybe that's part of her negativity about Owen and about Cristina and Owen's relationship? If Cristina is capable of having a loving, enduring relationship with her husband, she'll be proving that she is NOT Ellis, and Ellis is who Mer needs Cristina to be. I still find it very troubling that Shonda believes that the Mer/Cris relationship is the central relationship on the show, given how (IMO) dysfunctional and unhealthy it is. It seems unlikely that this, finally, will be the year that Shonda lets Mer and Cristina grow up and relate to each other as adult close friends instead of neurotic co-dependents. But I guess we can still hope! I think this is a pretty accurate description of Cris/Mer "friendship". She wants to have the relationship she has never had with her mother, through Cristina, because she only sees Cristina like her mother's clone. And IMO she sees Owen like what Richard was to Ellis - the man who her mother loved and who "stole" her mother away from her. She sees Owen as a constant threat. That's why she is seeking approval from Cristina all the time, especially in her relatonship with Derek, that's why she's meddling in Cristina's marriage, that's why she treats Owen as an enemy. Because in her eyes that's what Richard did, he took her mother away from her. That's the unhealthiest part of their "friendship". It's very troubling that Shonda Rhimes sees this so called "friendship" as the greatest "love story" of the show. Some time appart for these two, would be good for both, especially for Meredith.
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Post by sdevil on Sept 2, 2012 17:07:53 GMT -5
I don't think we will be seeing them as a standard couple right in the beginning - or at all in Season 9 - I think the season will pretty much be them getting closer to each other again. It wouldn't be realistic that all their problems just disappear because of the plane crash, neither do I think Shonda would tell the story that way (doesn't sound like enough drama to me ), so I think as far as the season of romance goes, it will be them trying to function as a normal couple again and find ways to live in the aftermath of the abortion, the cheating etc.
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Post by blackorchid on Sept 3, 2012 1:32:43 GMT -5
I think Shonda will have another woman show interest in Owen this season.
I can see the 'drama' now, Cristina decides to come home at Christmas see Owen talking to some woman gets the wrong idea and goes back to Mayo. That should drag the drama out an extra 10 episodes.
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Post by justine on Sept 3, 2012 3:25:27 GMT -5
Tania, prey that Shonda will find in Callie and Arizona the couple to "destroy" this season ! But I trust that she will keep toying with lots of dramas for CO...again.
Me think, no happiness for CO this season neither but trust we will see them longing for something they can not identify and lot of sadness.
Happy CO ? I guess we will have to wait for season 10, if the show can go through this season, which I do not know after the last SF, which was quite...euh...uh...please Shonda, do not write another plane disaster of that kind or of any kind...save us from such another slobbery SF. Please, pretty please.
In real world, there is no way that a couple like CO can even survive with all the undealt issues and interferences. To start with, As a partner, a wife or a husband, every normal people would had blown up all the Meredith or Teddy person likes...JMHO !
But I am relieved not to have to watch Teddy sucking up with screen time. Thank you Shonda or whoever you are ABC boards !
Another woman around Owen ? Quite possible. Once Cristina in Mayo, Owen will burry himself in work and what else ? ...another interest than work, of course. A woman or Alcohol ? Your choice Shonda ?
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Post by Leanne on Sept 3, 2012 4:32:26 GMT -5
Another woman around Owen ? Quite possible. Once Cristina in Mayo, Owen will burry himself in work and what else ? ...another interest than work, of course. A woman or Alcohol ? Your choice Shonda ? Like your responce Justine I think if anything O/C fans have matured and weathered all that gets dished out we now roll with the punches .... bring it on
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Post by hopew on Sept 3, 2012 7:21:31 GMT -5
Why are we being so pessimistic already? Nothing we've heard so far justifies that IMO.
There hasn't been anything even hinted at that makes me think Owen may suddenly develop a drinking problem or get a story line involving another woman. Shonda already has multiple story lines to follow this year. Frankly, I don't see her giving Owen that much attention, at least in any story line other than his relationship with Cristina (who is one of the lead characters; Owen is primarily "her guy" in the GA world).
Shonda is an equal opportunity torturer of her GA couples. Last season was C/O's turn. This year, Calzona are, I bet, going to have their turn. I'm not saying C/O will be happy all season and I don't expect an immediate reunion, but I do believe they will get back together this season, and that we won't have to wait until the SF to see it. If I'm wrong, I'll deal with it then, but I don't see any need to anticipate the worst before it happens!
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Post by justine on Sept 3, 2012 8:59:20 GMT -5
unlike the last characters introduced in the show, I strongly belived that Owen Hunt is a character that can now stand alone, without being just Cristina's guy.
The SP and maybe first half of the season to come is the test for the character. That's why we will see them apart and how the personality of Owen Hunt is going to be shown aside the man who loves deeply his wife. The writers have just started to dig in the complexity of the character and his flaws.
So this season for CO, aside their CO SL, we will see a SL for Owen Hunt and a SL for Cristina. They will have to face alone, their own demons and flaws in order to understand themself and who they really are before being able to explain themself to each other and to share their visions of life together. It is when they will find their way back together.
Unlike Erica Hanh, Teddy or Mark who were both unidimensional, Owen Hunt is a romantic tortured hero, yes hero and being a Hero has its price.
No doubt that Owen Hunt loves Cristina Yang, he says it loud for .000.000.000 of times. And the last time in episode 8x19 was crystal clear "you are the love of my life, I will never love another woman". We were like oh glad, and happy to hear it during the dreadful episode but I think it is forshadowing something. I would have prefered him to save these beautiful words for this season when they start to coming out of the tunel, meaning end of the season. LOL !
Not being pessimistic or negative, but we have to aknowledge that until both of them start to sit and confronts each other about their own crappyself, there is no way for happiness for them.
Cristina as usual, will take the easy road, running away. And Owen will keep all his pain for himself, the pain to lose his wife, the pain to lose part of his staff, Lexie and ...Mark ?, he will work under constant pressure with 3 heads of Department to substitute temporary, Mark, Derek, Arizona. Owen Hunt was a loner, is a loner. That's lot of pressure for a man.
..oh, by the way, as COS, Owen will have to deal with Meredith's shenanigans...this alone , makes me want to take some valium for myself !
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Post by mesilla on Sept 3, 2012 10:37:43 GMT -5
I'm going to agree with those of you who say both C and O will get their own individual story lines. But I'm going to be a bit more optimistic...I think that both story lines will be platonic or flirtatious at best. I think that neither will be able to move on. And I think if anyone has a slightly romantic relationship it will be Cristina.
Owen will have his hands full with the hospital. I agree that we may see some family drama with Owen as well. Interested to see if the writers created a dramatic family crisis for him. I could see Cristina coming back to support him.
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Post by justine on Sept 3, 2012 11:17:43 GMT -5
Meredith like Cristina has no limit regarding professional boundaries.
See the Meredith/Richard dynamic or the Cristina/Owen dynamic when profesional disagreement showed up. How the difference of opinions ended ? Over stepping the chief's order and being safe because of their personal bond with the COS of the moment !
Will be interesting to see both Meredith and Cristina being under the order of a chief which they do not have any influence on. Oops, sorry, Owen has a disavantage, he will have to step up in front of Meredith...his wife bestie...! LOL ! Things never easy for the poor man !
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Post by mesilla on Sept 3, 2012 14:56:24 GMT -5
By the way, where is the promo with some new footage? How long will we have to wait? Would it be too much to ask if they put in 2 or 3 new shots, preferably at least one tiny C/O scene into the old mix? Right?! We are only 3 and a half weeks away...should at least have cast photos or interviews by now right? Does anyone else think that Bailey's (probable) wedding will be a point of reconciliation between C/O? I see a sweet dance...and awkward "Goodnight" scene perhaps?
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Post by ella1967 on Sept 3, 2012 18:49:28 GMT -5
Why are we being so pessimistic already? Nothing we've heard so far justifies that IMO. I think it has a lot to do with how close we are to the beginning of the season and we've had no confirmed CO scoop. So, perhaps we're circling toward the drain in our worries. Well, I remain optimistic for Owen and Cristina - you know I do. I also await the scoop Natalie Abrams at TV Guide said she got from Kevin on set last week... I don't believe at all that this is about introducing other characters for them to flirt with or be flirted with to show them how what they really want is each other, how moving on with others is something they cannot do. They had an opportunity to do that for Owen in S.8 and instead of putting him with someone to have a work flirtation with that developed into something more as Cristina imagined, it was a ONS with a character who didn't even have her own name. Nor do I believe Cristina is running to MN to hide out in the arms of an as-yet-unnamed intern. I also don't think this is about how they will immediately be brought back together and all will be perfect in their marriage. However, as a woman who has been married a long time and been through plenty of ugly bumps in the road with my husband, I do know that it is more than possible to recover from issues such as those Cristina and Owen faced in S.8 and step into an even better marriage together as a result. And I really do think that is the point, that we go into marriage with preconceptions of what it will be, find out it's very different, find out we're very different than we thought we were, and in that process we find ways to hang in and grow as individuals and as a couple. I do think the season of romance for them results from all the situations in S.8 in which it would have been so darned easy to say we're done and over. They hit bumps in the road, painful ugly bumps, and as much as they had painful reactions and hurt each other and were temporarily separated I really think it's all about how realizing those bumps have made them stronger as individuals and as a couple. And regarding spoilery information we sort of have received: MN may be a fellowship Cris goes to out of PTSD returning and remembering how lost she was without medicine the last time she was symptomatic. It may also be something she and Owen agree on as the next professional step for her and they agree they will work on their marriage at the same time. Chris working with her proctor again in MN. Well, I think at the time they met Cristina was in an emotional growth phase - and if all she was thinking about was I am a surgeon she would have stepped into her 'mind over matter' mantra and been on top of her game. Instead, during boards she showed how stressed she was emotionally over her marriage in this biggest exam of her professional life. Her proctor recognized talent in her, she recognized after boards she'd lost her cool and now he's going to be, I"m guessing, the irritating old school surgeon with whom she's paired up by her boss thinking she'll learn a few things from that surgeon. And I'm guessing that's exactly what will happen. (Heck, maybe even he and his wife will have been married for 40 years? lol.) And then there's the sweet candle flame of both SR and BB who have said that Owen and Cristina will feel the love for each other this season and slowly rebuild their marriage. It's a lot less showy than Derek's inability to operate or AZ possibly losing part of her leg from the crash...yet the only arc I'll be tuning in to see. I do really think it's about Cris and Owen regaining the trust and intimacy in their marriage from realizing they're not willing to throw in the towel, that the pain they felt resulted in growth on both sides, and that they are now ready to build a marriage based on their own wants and needs rather than assumptions about what marriage would be.
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Post by ella1967 on Sept 3, 2012 19:47:23 GMT -5
Also wondering about Mer/Cris centered epi this season and the discussion y'all have been having about Mer's reliance on Cristina and how Mer is turning sort of Ellis-like in her approach to working with interns in S.9. So here are some ponderings... Filtering into this for me is something SR tweeted this spring about how Mer doesn't yet get what Owen is for Cris, what place he has in her life. The implication being that Mer doesn't yet see that for Cris, Owen is what Derek is to Meredith-the imperfect love of her life. I do wonder if what we're seeing for Mer is the same sort of reaction to Cris and Owen's troubles that we saw in Cris' reaction to Mer in therapy and trying to figure things out with Derek in S.4. Mer was in therapy w/ Wyatt and rebuilding with Derek whom Cris maintained didn't understand Mer at all. Cris even went to Wyatt's office, told her that Derek didn't understand how Mer's pain level was high every day and now he's telling her to move her roommates out, people who are her family, and Wyatt cut right through the sh*t and said...it must be very painful for you to be losing Meredith. So I dk if this is about Mer needing Cris to be Ellis for her, reliving the mother relationship she never had through Cris' place in her life and Owen is Richard-like, the love that took Ellis away from Mer as a child. I just dk. Or if this is more Mer's reaction to seeing Cris having emotional growth she didn't understand, wanting to be with Owen even after all that had happened between them in S.8, as mirrored in Mer's insistence to Owen in the sp that she knows Cris and her insistence to Cris in 8.23 that she knows what her future should be - fellowship at Stanford and divorcing Owen so they can be with people who want what they want. And then Cris shuts her down with 'Owen's my person.' Which Mer brings up at the plane crash site, as if clinging to person status is all she has left. I just dk... I wonder if that's some sort of foreshadowing to Cris returning to SGH for Owen, because the work at Mayo fills all the professional challenges she ever hoped to see, yet she doesn't find herself fitting in there, finds herself missing home, and returns for Owen who is home for her, and secondarily her family of misfits at SGH. Which will piss off Mer further...who seems to want everyone to stay put for her in the sp so that her family stays in tact. Yet it will also be how Cris gets home...which Mer seems to want... Or what about the mind-bender for Mer if Cris and Owen have worked out together that MN is too good an opportunity to pass up and Mer makes the assumption that Owen drove Cristina away from Seattle, can't get why Cris would go if it's not about leaving Owen, why Cris can't see how much Mer needs her post-crash? And then Mer begins taking out on interns/others that her life hasn't turned out the way she'd hoped...yet it also shows Mer finally in Cris' return that Owen is the love of Cris' life, her partner as Derek is Meredith's. Lots to ponder...lots of layers....
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Sept 4, 2012 10:19:43 GMT -5
I think I need a break from this thread, see you guys after the show starts airing
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Post by Leanne on Sept 4, 2012 12:17:58 GMT -5
Hey all, lovely to see all the speculation on this thread remember to speculate, and debate your ideas here with each other and include everyone in the debate and have fun...keep it going
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Post by justine on Sept 4, 2012 15:56:23 GMT -5
Hey all, lovely to see all the speculation on this thread remember to speculate, and debate your ideas here with each other and include everyone in the debate and have fun...keep it going LOL Leanne ;D! oh girl...do not be so demanding and pushie ! We are speculating, we keep trying to speculate ! We promise ! I echo everyone here who are already exhausted ! We need a significant CO spoiler to keep going with our speculation ! Something has to be given... Me going to take some rest.
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