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Post by Leanne on Mar 19, 2009 2:29:34 GMT -5
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Post by Leanne on Mar 19, 2009 12:13:50 GMT -5
AFTER HIS FELLOW SURGEONS TRY AND FAIL TO BRING DEREK BACK TO WORK AT SEATTLE GRACE, MEREDITH MUST SUMMON THE STRENGTH TO CONVINCE HIM, ON ABC'S "GREY'S ANATOMY"
"Stand By Me" - After his fellow surgeons try and fail to bring Derek back to work, Meredith must summon the strength to convince him. Meanwhile the hospital is abuzz as Mark attempts a rare face transplant surgery, Cristina, at last awarded her first solo surgery, is more focused on the needs of her friends, and Izzie does her best to keep her medical condition a secret, on "Grey's Anatomy," THURSDAY, MARCH 19 (9:00-10:02 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network
"Grey's Anatomy" stars Ellen Pompeo as Meredith Grey, Patrick Dempsey as Derek Shepherd, Sandra Oh as Cristina Yang, Katherine Heigl as Isobel "Izzie" Stevens, Justin Chambers as Alex Karev, T.R. Knight as George O'Malley, Chandra Wilson as Miranda Bailey, James Pickens, Jr. as Richard Webber, Sara Ramirez as Callie Torres, Eric Dane as Mark Sloan, Chyler Leigh as Lexie Grey and Kevin McKidd as Owen Hunt.
Guest starring Larry Sullivan as Dave, Emily Kuroda as Kendall and Brandon Scott as Intern Ryan.
"Stand By Me" was written by Zoanne Clack and directed by Jessica Yu.
"Grey's Anatomy" is broadcast in 720 Progressive (720P), ABC's selected HDTV format, with 5.1-channel surround sound and Spanish audio via SAP. A TV parental guideline will be posted closer to airdate.
This episode of "Grey's Anatomy" will be available on ABC.com the day after airing on the network for users to watch online.
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Post by ruralstar on Mar 19, 2009 21:35:19 GMT -5
When this episode first started I was cringing at the nonsense with the interns. I'm really glad it was put into context. As to the rest....
This episode had alot going on. Hard to put things into order with only one watch. Guess I'll start with Izzy as she was the focus. I can feel sympathy for this character now that she's not acting so stupid all of the time. Honestly though, she was a ditz last year and she didn't have cancer then.
It wasn't fair for her to lay all of this on Cristina and not expect a backlash at some point. Seems obvious that she really wanted Cris to spill the beans and I'm glad she was able to. Loved the lesson of the face transplant guy. That plotline spoke volumes about how many of us feel about our online experiences. If people are honest, like that fellow, then his online friends knew him alot better than he ever gave them credit for. They knew the real person and not just the image we all show to the outside world. Their love was unconditional and Izzy needed to see the value of that level of support. Yes the lesson was obvious but it felt natural and not forced.
Mark and Lexie. Oh I loved that kiss! So long in coming but well deserved. Lexie is a doll. As mama Shepherd pointed out, Mark needs young. He needs her energy and he very much recognizes that fact by his comment last week: "You think you broke me, Little Grey? You're the one who put me back together." Love that couple. If he starts messing around on her I hope she pulls a Lorena Bobbit on him LOL.
Cristina. I felt so bad for her. All alone and trying so hard to support Izzy and not mess up her own life in the process. It made me mad that Owen was not in a position to see her succeed at any point or to support her after she talked to Izzy outside. She doesn't do emotion and here was this sweet old woman wanting reassurance. I liked the bit in the OR Kudos for Sandra Oh for making Cristina's connections so very real there. Blurting out Izzy's condition was awkward but necessary. Her concern for Izzy nicely played as well. I could believe she was angry and hurt and even a little bit scared.
Poor Alex. His whole world is coming apart at the seams.
The BS with the interns. Yeah, comic relief I could have done without. I don't blame Bailey for wanting to slap Meredith and George. You can't ignore what's going on, especially when it impacts patients. D'uh!
*snorts* Owen to Bailey: "People don't say no to you." Nope they certainly don't! Bailey made me laugh so many times in a genuine way unlike the interns nonsense that just made me cringe. That scene with her and Owen was hysterical again for the blocking. 6ft Kevin squaring off with Chandra, who can't be much over 5 ft on a good day!
I was not surprised when Callie wound up staying out there with Derek. As to Derek himself... Gods, I want to b***h slap that guy. How blind can he get? As if Meredith is going to walk away? She may have in the past but he's really underestimating their current relationship if he thinks she would do so now. He was the one to state that she was 'ready' Seems he's the one who is not ready. Like the Cheif, Derek is feeling sorry for himself. They make a good pair in that regard. No matter what Callie or Owen said, he couldn't see the truth. Yeah, he was drunk. Still, it was just over the top. This crisis just does not ring true to me. At least Derek now has a reason to pull his head out of...well, you get the idea.
So finally to Owen. Love that we got another scene with him and Alex working together. Very cool. As mentioned above it was great to see Owen opposite Bailey. Owen's excitement at watching both Mark and Cristina work harks back a bit to the guy we first met in the premiere. Excited about the adventure, even if he is living vicariously. Then Bailey sends him on a mission that was bound to be disasterous. One of the things that struck me was two somewhat casual mentions of Iraq. First there was Bailey; "You survived a war." I didn't catch Owen's reaction to that statement but I think 'survived' is a bit of a misnomer. Then there is Derek: "I'm surprised you didn't talk about Iraq." And Owen's very fast "I don't talk about Iraq." In a social way more of the staff is aware of Owen's past than either he or the viewer has realized up until now. I got a bit of a shiver at Owen's mention of the children who lost their parents. For a second I could see Kevin having to talk about a nine year old orphan and having a son of that approximate age in real life. Just a very surreal statement to hear. Can't imagine how it was to say it.
I'll finish with a comment about a spoiler mentioned this past week. That Owen's behavior tonight would be somehow indicative of the future of his relationship with Cristina. The last time we see Owen he's drunk. Is this the substance abuse angle? The last discussion he actually participates in beyond a simple reply concerns trauma and how he deals or doesn't deal. He tells Derek that he 'showed up' that he 'went to work' Admits that part of him 'never came back' from the deaths of the parents he tried to save. And he seems to try and ignore Derek's assertions about being 'dead' inside. You have to wonder where Owen was while the Cheif was straightening Derek out. How did he get home and what condition is Cristina going to find him in next week?
*sigh* To say that I was disappointed to not see a hint of Owen in next week's preview is an understatement.
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Post by georgeseurat on Mar 19, 2009 21:49:14 GMT -5
Hmmm... I don't really think this episode is that great, mainly because Bailey makes bad decision on choosing people to talk Derek out. I mean, she choose Torres then Owen? Surely she just doesn't know her subordinates, and speaking of being a manager of a hospital.
Owen in hot (hotter as I say than other episodes), especially the scene with bailey. Hilarious! His scenes are spot on, as KMK nails them without really putting too much effort.
I love how Cristina tells Alex about Izzie before the surgery. I think Cristina got through too much that she has to speak out. The locker room scene is a showdown of both Sandra and Katherine's acting, yet, that's just it through out the episode.
As for Derek, still have no empathy/sympathy to him, because I still thinks that he is unprofessional in the whole thing. I mean, 2 days, okay, but a week is too much. As I said, his EQ is too low. He tells Owen, "Or you're dead inside." That's because he still treats himself as a normal human being, not a doctor. As an experienced doctor, your emotional rate should be at your lowest, and this is trained through many many deaths. That's how doctors becomes better doctors. If he cannot see this, I think he should change your job. Not that I say he should be "dead," but you don't show it in front of people. See how Owen deals with his past, that's professional, even though it seems cold.
Maybe I'm a realist/pessimist, but that's how I see things, and that's how doctors should be. This is repressive occupation.
BTW, with no O/C in promo, I am so afraid that the strangle might be at the end. This episode direction is not as strong as the other episodes.
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Post by ruralstar on Mar 19, 2009 22:03:48 GMT -5
Owen is not Bailey's subordinate. He is an Attending. She won't be one until July. I believe she is Cheif Resident at this point but I could be wrong there. Bailey just has a very strong personality and actually she's right in so far as what she knows. She knows Owen 'survived' a war. She doesn't know how messed up he is. She sees a guy who has experienced a lot and could potentially talk Derek down out of the trees. Seems logical to her.
I do agree that Callie was an odd choice. It seemed like an excuse to write the character into the episode. That's why it didn't surprise me that she stayed out there.
I don't think you're a pessimist, George. I think we all bring different experiences to the table when viewing an episode. My experiences with surgeons in my life have been very positive for the most part. The one exception being a guy who really didn't seem to care and it showed in sloppy work. That said, I can't imagine how doctors actually deal with the possibility of death at their own hands every day. It takes a gifted person to be a good doctor. Dedicated in heart as well as mind to be a great one.
ETA: in the preview you see Cris wearing that telltale turtleneck during one of the scenes. I think the strangle happens early on and then she has to show up at the hospital to be there for Izzy. I doubt Owen will be there with her though.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Mar 19, 2009 23:17:24 GMT -5
Well not the best Owen episode ever, but still good character development for fans of the show like me I am glad I wasn't expecting too much Owen in this episode. It was pretty much dominated by Derek, Izzie and Cristina. The whole theme of this episode is looking back on your work and evaluating your place. You can mourn for a while but at some point you move on and get on with your life even though a part of yourself might be 'dead'. I liked the interactions with Cristina and Izzie. usually i find it annoying because izzie is always the talkative one, this time around it was Cristina trying to coax her into treatment. You could see how this was affecting Cristina, she barely even seemed to notice her patient (OMG Mrs. Kim from Gilmore Girls!) was alive until she asked questions which Cristina ignored. It really took a toll on Cristina and I think it was another example of how she has changed from the 'robot' she was in the first couple seasons, into someone who actually cares. Granted she did so at the expense of her patient but after a while she realized what she was (or wasn't) doing and got the balls to tell everyone about Izzie. I knew Cristina would tell The relief on Izzie's face when Cristina told her she told them said it all. The only thing I dont buy about Izzie's condition is how she's walking around and seems fine, when she actually isn't. From a personal stand point, a really good friend of mine had the exact same condition Izzie had (ironically he was also in med school) but when he was at stage 4 he was bed ridden by that time. So I'm not so sure how I feel about izzie still. I realize this is just tv drama though, so I'll let it slide.. She had to have time to mourn for herslef which is why she told Cristina, and why she was so relieved when Cristina told Bailey, Alex, etc. So I loved that Bailey was recruiting people to get Derek back to work. It makes sense that she'd ask Callie and Owen. They are the two most semi non-involved in Derek's life. They were chosen for the same reason Cristina was the one Izzie chose. I loved Callie in the scenes with Bailey and Derek. The most hilarious was Owen and Bailey hands down. I know everyone towers over Chandra, but Kevin REALLY towers over her. So when she was telling Owen that he was going to go to the woods or else, and he was all "People dont' say no to you?" yes Owen not even you say no to Dr. Bailey. She knocked him down a few inches that day But in a good way. I loved that she said "You survived a war" well no he kind of only did in the physical sense. Another expectation that Owen has to live up to apparently. I did notice that Owen told her he cleared his schedule to watch Cristina's solo surgery, then got talked into going to Derek's by Bailey. I wonder i this will be a trend? Owen kind of having good intentions with Cristina (Like with the date) then ditching her when she really needs him. I kind of hoped when Mer and Cris had the G.I. Joe chat they would have had some kind of scene for us with Cris and Owen aside from the group one. But alas...About substance abuse, we kind of already know Owen is a drinker, but I still think he has to be sleepwalking somehow in next week's episode for it to be believable, then again this is grey's they bring back dead people to have sex with their alive girlfriends. The scenes with Derek, Owen and Callie were really good. I also loved owen's story about the boy and his siblings. I agree rural he had to be thinking about his own kids in that scene. I liked the dichotomy between Owen, Callie and Derek. So unusual, yet you can see how they are all connected to each other by their 'others' aside from work. Callie and Derek i'm surprised didn't talk about Mark, but at this point derek knows he was in the wrong. I laughed out loud when the Chief marched up to that trailer and Callie almost fell out of her seat. He totally busted their little party It reminded me of someone's angry parent coming home and finding a house full of kids. LOL The convo/confrontation with teh Chief and Derek was interesting but what is it that the Chief still can't admit he had an affair with Mer's mom? He just said "affair". That bugs. Derek was right to be angry at chief for telilng Mer about the ring, the chief wasn't really thinking about Derek, he was only thinking about the hospital, at least that's my conclusion. But when he went to the trailer, he was honestly thinking of Derek. Then you have the childishness of the interns vs. the grownups that George and Mer are trying to be in the situation. The drama with the pregnant intern was definately a little homage to their intern years. But I think they were able to see themselves and that was what made them uncomfortable in stepping in until Bailey made them do it. The blowhole guy was really sad, I hope if I'm ever in an accident and need a face transplant you guys would be there for me LOL Lexie and Mark were cute, loved how Lexie kind of just threw it in the intern's faces. they already know that they are an item, why hide it and deal with smirks, and chuckles behind your backs. Makes sense. Lexie is definately the mature one. YAY for another lunch scene I hope we'll get more of those, I never really realized how much I missed them until they were re-introduced recently. that's all for now more later I'm sure
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Post by georgeseurat on Mar 20, 2009 1:21:17 GMT -5
Owen is not Bailey's subordinate. He is an Attending. She won't be one until July. I believe she is Cheif Resident at this point but I could be wrong there. Bailey just has a very strong personality and actually she's right in so far as what she knows. She knows Owen 'survived' a war. She doesn't know how messed up he is. She sees a guy who has experienced a lot and could potentially talk Derek down out of the trees. Seems logical to her.
I do agree that Callie was an odd choice. It seemed like an excuse to write the character into the episode. That's why it didn't surprise me that she stayed out there.
I don't think you're a pessimist, George. I think we all bring different experiences to the table when viewing an episode. My experiences with surgeons in my life have been very positive for the most part. The one exception being a guy who really didn't seem to care and it showed in sloppy work. That said, I can't imagine how doctors actually deal with the possibility of death at their own hands every day. It takes a gifted person to be a good doctor. Dedicated in heart as well as mind to be a great one.
ETA: in the preview you see Cris wearing that telltale turtleneck during one of the scenes. I think the strangle happens early on and then she has to show up at the hospital to be there for Izzy. I doubt Owen will be there with her though. As Owen says, "I show up the next day." This is professionalism. As I'm from Hong Kong, I know doctors in HK usually will go to pubs at night and if someone dies in their hands that day, they will drink and talk about it, cry about it, having a hangover overnight, then the next day, a normal guy again and go to work. No one talks about it, everything's back in business. The reason why they show up is not because they are dead inside but because they cannot just throw a tantrum just for one case while there are people dying very day out there. It's just a basic principle/discipline for doctors as their jobs is to save life, continually. That's why, when Derek says, "you'are dead inside" to Owen, I was like, "you really don't know what professional doctor is." I'm also kind of surprised that Owen was convinced by Derek's fallacy.
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Post by TeamMcKidd on Mar 20, 2009 2:22:28 GMT -5
maybe Owen isn't so much convinced by Derek in the end, but just overly critical and doubting himself constantly. He feels so guilty and disoriented himself that, if others suggest something negative of him, he just agrees automatically maybe?
Great comments so far! I love reading your reviews and such. You all have interesting insights! I, for one, just really enjoyed getting the laughs from the Owen/Bailey scene between crying over Izzy (yeah, pitiful I know).
If Sandra Oh isn't nominated for a Globe this year, then people are blind. She's incredible.
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Post by georgeseurat on Mar 20, 2009 2:35:40 GMT -5
maybe Owen isn't so much convinced by Derek in the end, but just overly critical and doubting himself constantly. He feels so guilty and disoriented himself that, if others suggest something negative of him, he just agrees automatically maybe? That's what I think/hope too. Because I kind of glad that he makes that look to Derek after Chief finished what he says, like saying, "What will you say, huh?"
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Post by ruralstar on Mar 20, 2009 6:46:56 GMT -5
maybe Owen isn't so much convinced by Derek in the end, but just overly critical and doubting himself constantly. He feels so guilty and disoriented himself that, if others suggest something negative of him, he just agrees automatically maybe? Great comments so far! I love reading your reviews and such. You all have interesting insights! I, for one, just really enjoyed getting the laughs from the Owen/Bailey scene between crying over Izzy (yeah, pitiful I know). If Sandra Oh isn't nominated for a Globe this year, then people are blind. She's incredible. I agree with your assessment of Owen, Kat. He is so unsure about everything in his life. He's looking for an anchor and even when he finds it in Cristina he still doesn't know what to do.
George, thanks for your perspective. Love the different take. I agree re professionalism, which is why Derek's whole tantrum rings so false for me as well.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Mar 20, 2009 9:07:07 GMT -5
Just a thought about something: I wonder if its significant that he told Cristina he likes her neck, and now in the next episode he is supposedly strangling her? On a side note I was laughing when Bailey said she was into daytime tv, she is known for being a huge ABC soap fan LOL
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Post by cl3me on Mar 20, 2009 12:33:35 GMT -5
It was great to see Owen interacting with others in this episode. The scene with Bailey was priceless. That was the closest anyone has come to standing up to Bailey. As the audience we know that Owen wouldn't be the ideal person to send out to rescue Derek (and Callie) because we (and CHristina) have had a glimpse of the inner turmoil he is going through. Owen has done a superior job of keeping it from the rest of the staff at SG. They have just seen the assertive, decisive, talented trauma surgeon....war hero even. Little do they know, that medicine is the only thing going right in his life these days.
At the trailer with Derek and Callie, his stern reply that he "doesn't talk about Iraq" shows how he is trying to forget that chapter in his life and deny that part of himself. Problem is, the harder you try to push the memories away, the harder the effects of PTSD push back and demand to be dealt with - and we have seen how this has been escalating - and the hints that it will escalate more. I think the way Izzie finally submits and accepts the help of her friends will be a good example to Owen.
Can't wait for next week!
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Post by kaz on Mar 20, 2009 23:03:01 GMT -5
For me, as the sum of its parts, this episode amounted to a good one overall. However, deconstructed, I truly found it to be filled with some very fine moments. I want to start with the lighthearted and then move onto the heavy. Firstly, there's Bailey and just about everyone else she talks to in her quest to convince someone to bring Derek back from the woods. Her spiel about imagining Torres and Hunt on a spit somewhere being turned by a one-armed man had me in stitches (Chandra Wilson is so good) but I really can't go past Bailey vs. Hunt for the win. If there was anyone in this world who could stand up to Dr Bailey, you would have to think it would be Major Owen Hunt. Hunt, who is as badass as they come. Hunt, who's trached a guy with a pen, stapled his own leg, stabbed pigs, taken a 50/50 chance to shock a girl's heart. Hunt...who's actually been through a REAL war (not just this surgical career war that Derek is fighting) and somehow managed to come out the other side, albeit only just. If anyone could do it, Hunt could. And he did try. I loved the way Kevin delivered "I know I can do it. I'm saying I don't want to". But noone says no to Dr Bailey. I adored this scene. Next, there's the scene in the bathroom with the interns. I found the intern stuff about 30% amusing and 70% annoying. What I did enjoy about the storyline was the fact that Meredith and George had to step up to the plate and be baby-Baileys. I loved the good cop / bad cop routine the whole way through, with George trying to tell the interns not to interrupt Meredith etc. But most of all, I enjoyed the final scene in the bathroom where Meredith tells each of the guys to get themselves cleaned up and the girl to get herself to OB-GYN because yes, she's pregnant, before she promptly walks out with George muttering (just audibly) "that was VERY Bailey". Then there was the Mark/Lexie kiss. I was wondering how they were going to deal with the giggling, whispering interns all through the episode. I figured it was going to come to a head at some point but didn't imagine it would be with something so sweet. I really like Chyler Leigh. She lights up the screen and makes Lexie a perfect choice and burst of brightness to cut through Mark's dark and ugly past (as a known manwhore!). The moment was really tender and pure and just confirmed for me how much I really do enjoy this couple.
I loved the short burst we had of Alex and Owen working together again and Owen being a teacher. I had to wonder when Alex held the face up in front of Owen whether we were supposed to see the symbolism in that and realise that Owen is wearing a mask of his own and hiding the depth of his pain and inner turmoil from everyone but Cristina. Or maybe I'm reading too much into it.
As an aside, it was also a nice touch to have Hunt take on the other part of Sloane's surgery (the harvesting part) since it really shows how far these two have come as colleagues. Not so long ago, Hunt was being dismissed as a "meatballer". Now he's an integral part of the team, and I like it.
The scene where "blowhole's" friends came back was also incredibly touching. I loved the whole idea that true friends are those who really see and love what's beneath the surface and it harked back to Hunt's "see me" scene in the oncall room with Cristina a few weeks ago.
Then we've got Hunt, Torres and Shepherd in the woods. I enjoyed this mostly for the pure fact that Owen was interacting with other people and again we saw him as a teacher/mentor in some way, trying to get through to Derek. He could have unleashed his emotions and basically shown Derek that if HE'S still managing to function and work with all the guilt and sadness and inner turmoil from Iraq, then Derek should get over himself and work as well, but instead he told this story that Torres and Shepherd could relate to. A story the moral of which was that these things happen, surgeons make mistakes, but when they do, you keep going, keep working.
But while it was a sad story, I didn't feel it and it didn't seem to me that Hunt did either. I was desensitised by what I already knew of his war experience (the body full of holes, the tragic loss of life). I could see that same disconnect in Kevin's delivery of the story, which only served to prove Derek's point that if you actually felt the full weight of all the loss of life, there's no way you could move forward. And finally, I liked the way Owen quickly said "I don't talk about Iraq" and then fumbled to get his next line out, in a split second betrayal of his real emotions. Hunt's certainly not dead inside but he is definitely fighting a constant battle with himself to keep a lid on his emotions. One of my very favourite moments was seeing Cristina in the OR, finally getting a shot at her solo surgery. It's taken her so long to get to this point, having had it taken away from her 8 episodes ago, that it was really nice to see her get the professional kudos she deserves. But strangely, and this is the part I liked the most, the "robot" was being prevented from doing her job by her "stupid feelings". It was a nice way to show how much Cristina has actually grown as a person. On the one hand, I found it annoying that Cristina had no scenes with Owen wherein he could offer some support, but on the other I could see the significance in his absence. Last time there was a solo surgery it just about broke Cristina and Hunt was there to pick up the pieces, or at least be a shoulder to cry on. This time, despite the fact that she was all alone and her burden was so much greater, Cristina found her own way to keep it together. To do her job AND be there for her friend. It definitely seems as though Hunt has tripped Cristina's saviour complex into action.
The last two scenes on my list are Izzie-related, so don't shoot me. While I don't love the fact that this storyline is compromising screentime for Kevin, I have actually been enjoying it a lot more in recent weeks.
The Izzie-Cristina scene outside of the hospital was really beautiful, I thought, and both actors handled it really well (although it's fair to say that Sandra Oh pretty much owned every scene she was in this week anyway). Cristina is so clearly not a robot. We know that and Izzie would have to know that too because she's seen Cristina with Meredith, Burke, people she loves. But the point is that Izzie's never felt it firsthand. Cristina has, for the most part, been cold and distant with Izzie. She doesn't have an emotional attachment to her. So the fact that Cristina said to Izzie "I want you to fight, for what it's worth, I want you to fight" was actually worth EVERYTHING. Because Izzie would expect to hear that from the likes of George, Meredith and Alex. People who she knows love her. But not from Cristina Yang. And in that moment, I think Izzie found strength.
Finally, there's Izzie making the transformation from surgeon to patient. I won't say too much about this simple scene. I think it spoke for itself. I just found the combination of the music, the editing and the voiceover (about every person we get close to being another one we will have to lose down the line) all very powerful.
Oh, and one last thing (I mean it this time). I have to make mention of Kristin's super-vague spoiler from last week and say that I think what she was alluding to was much more explicit than what's been speculated so far. I really think that when she said we'd get a preview of the future of the relationship, she was referring to the conversation that Meredith and Cristina had about GI Joe and the fact that there's been no sex. I think that means there will be no sex, at least in the immediate future, and that these two are destined to be friends for a while without the benefits. It's the only thing that seems to nicely fit with everything else we know about the upcoming episodes.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Mar 21, 2009 0:00:01 GMT -5
I agree kaz i think the GI joe talk is key. I dont see them getting physical for a while at least until his mind is straightened out a bit more. I love how Owen is the go-to guy even though he hasn't been there very long. Its mainly why I think he'll end up being Chief at some point if he can get it together. I think in some ways Cristina and Owen are paralleling The Chief and Ellis in terms of the diary. could be wrong though.
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Post by kaz on Mar 21, 2009 0:11:15 GMT -5
Can someone clear up for me what Derek says to Owen at the trailer because he's mumbling. I think he says "you go dead inside. You go dead inside because if you actually felt it, if you let yourself feel that, no way you're going back. No way". I didn't hear as him accusing Owen of being dead inside, but rather saying that as a surgeon that's the only way you could actually go to work after that sort of experience...
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Post by ruralstar on Mar 21, 2009 11:43:08 GMT -5
You've got the dialogue correct Kaz. And no, I don't think Derek was accusing Owen of anything either. He was too wrapped up in his personal pity party to see the effect his words were having on Owen.
Love your review btw. I missed the symbolism of the face being a mask and how it relates to Owen. Cool analogy. I saw the story out at the trailer a bit differently though. For me Owen did not seem at all desensitized. He seemed hyper aware of the story he was telling.
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Post by singer201 on Mar 21, 2009 16:14:23 GMT -5
kaz, I saw this episode in the same way you did. The last quarter of the show stirred feelings of compassion for the Fab 5, as the impact of the seriousness of Izzie's illness was revealed to them. As they all gathered to care for Iz in the last montage, I could feel the love and friendship they share pulling them all back together.
I, for one, like the intern side stories. In this episode, not only were Meredith and George forced to step up to become "Bailey-like" and discipline those errant interns, but they also got to see how ridiculous their own "intern dramas" looked to outsiders. Another tiny part, that reflects on how strongly Bailey's original interns have bonded with each other, was George telling Steve and Pierce, "This is year one of your residency. If you turn on each other now, you're not going to make it."
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Mar 21, 2009 18:32:05 GMT -5
Something I noticed too is Cristina is becoming way more of an affectionate person in the physical sense. She's very affectionate with Hunt, and old Cristina, even from a year ago, would never have held Izzie's hand like she did in the episode. Its like she is a whole new character, with the same things we love about her.
Also, why am I not surprised Owen drives a truck? Just seems normal LOL He also looked very at home in the woods. So rugged.
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Post by kaz on Mar 21, 2009 18:44:29 GMT -5
I guess I just compare it to the scene in the shower, which is also a tragic tale of loss, and can't see the depth of emotion in this one. I think he is aware of the sadness in the story he's telling but at the end of the day, his point is still "you keep going".
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Post by ruralstar on Mar 21, 2009 19:59:11 GMT -5
*shrugs* Different type of story, different people and different set of circumstances.
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