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Post by Leanne on Apr 21, 2009 3:37:28 GMT -5
how do you think the wedding (whoever gets married) will effect Cris and Owens relationship...Especially Cris how will she feel about Mer's happiness and her sadness at being single....
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Post by cl3me on Apr 21, 2009 11:24:27 GMT -5
Will be alot of mixed emotions for both of them - both have been engaged but didn't make it to the altar. For Chris, I think the time leading up to the wedding will be filled with dread and anxiety that she will be trying her best to put on a brave face. Owen I think will be reflective, thinking about the decision to break it off with Beth and stirring up "before" Owen. I think though that once one of the couples make it official, it will renew both Chris/Owen's hope. Plus, once they see one another all turned out and looking marvelous for the wedding, it will be IMPOSSIBLE for them not to notice one another and wish for another chance.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Apr 21, 2009 11:56:00 GMT -5
I remember a spoiler a while back saying that Mer/Der's wedding will have a posiitive effect on all the couples, so I'm guessing that will play into them getting back together.
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Post by Leanne on Apr 22, 2009 14:03:17 GMT -5
We had a spoiler a while back that O/C were in the church the longest during filming and when Sandra left they made here undress... Ok so what happened ...was Cris not invited so she pitches and then perhaps we have a bride/groom swop and she becomes a Bridesmaid......Owen then why is he there well I guess Derek and him are kinda friends what do you thing.....
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Apr 22, 2009 14:10:20 GMT -5
I t hink that this is when she tells him about Isiah-gate/burke leaving her at the altar, or maybe something predictable happens like her getting morning sickness during the ceremony LOL
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Post by Leanne on Apr 25, 2009 14:56:31 GMT -5
We have four episodes left time to round off our speculations Im going with the pregnancy as the O/C curve ball but I don't think is actually a pregnancy I think its a false alarm and our cliffhanger for the next season premiere I think Mer and Der go off to get married but it ends up being Izzie and Alex at the last moment....An I think you have something there Marryme Ill have to agree that O/C perhaps have that chat and sort out Cris's past in that church... well now all thats left is to sit back and enjoy
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Apr 25, 2009 18:55:39 GMT -5
There has to be a stag/hen party coming up. I am guessing Owen will be invited to Derek's stag, I wonder if they start talking about women, will Burke come up indirectly? Or will Owen end up drunk and Vorenus-style in the alley with Pullo? My guess is Mer's will end up being at the hospital considering Izzie's situation. Though can't picture any of them really being in the mood for it.
Also just had an idea about a down the road speculation if Cristina IS pregnant. I think it'd be hilarious if she has to go on bed rest, considering the complications she had last time, and sit at home all day, and I'm guessing Izzie would be the one to 'entertain' her if they keep getting closer and izzie is in recovery mode. Has a potential for hilarity. Poor Owen though he'll have a cranky pregnant person to deal that is typically already cranky. I could also see Cristina getting really into the clinical side of it all knowing Cristina. She will decompartmentalize it into a level that she can live with.
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Post by kaz on Apr 25, 2009 20:06:53 GMT -5
Maya, you might be able to help with this but from memory, Grey's doesn't ever really do cliffhangers as season finales. The biggest "cliffhanger" I remember was season 2 and whether Meredith would go with Finn or Derek but otherwise, Shonda seems to tie everything up nicely by season's end.
I hope that's the case here if there is in fact a pregnancy because I don't want to have to wait until next season to find out Owen's reaction to it or what effect it will have on their relationship (does it make them want to be together or push them apart)...
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Post by singer201 on Apr 25, 2009 21:54:02 GMT -5
Shonda does do mild cliff-hangers at season's end.
Season one ended with Addison's shocking appearance right as Derek and Meredith were heading out to "dinner now, talk later".
Season two ended with prom sex, and "Will she go with Derek or Finn?", also Denny's death and what will happen to Izzie now?
Season three ended with Cris left at the altar, Meredith telling Derek, "It's over.", Addison leaving for CA, and the Callie/George/Izzie fiasco. Four main couples were broken apart with no assurance of what the future held.
Season four ended with Meredith left in a field of candles waiting for Derek to return, Izzie consoling Alex, and Mark, Hahn, and Callie questioning the future of their relationships. Strong hints, but no assurances of what came next.
I can see season 5 ending with Mer/Der married and pondering where it goes from here (house, babies, specialty, etc.), Alex/Izzie married and leaving the outcome of her cancer in the air, Cris telling Owen about her current pregnancy and Burke, but leaving any decisions until next season, George joining the military, but not knowing where that will take him. Mini cliff-hangers all around!
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Apr 25, 2009 22:39:11 GMT -5
I am more along Kaz's perspective, I dont think anything really compares to the cliffhanger that existed in seasons 1 and 2, primarily because I think those are what the show is most famous for, addie coming back, dead denny (first round) and I think its more of the iconic category. Its what everyone remembers when they think of Grey's as well as the bomb episode that aired superbowl time during season 2, when people REALLY started watching. I don't see the later seasons as having huge cliffhangers. Season 3 iwas more of a full circle kind of thing because there was resolution between Burke/Cristina, Addie leaving, and the end of Callie and George's marriage. I also don't see season 4 as a cliffhanger, Derek and Mer were clearly together by that end, he just had to do the right thing and break it off with Rose. Burke leaving Cris at the altar was a resolution, and final because she basically was kind of relieved at the end. Season 4 well, i'd kind of just like to forget that season. It was like the writers didn't know how to write the show without Isaiah Washington and basically didn't give Sandra Oh any material. At least they made it up to her this year.
I think Cristina knows she has to start letting Owen in on her past relationships, she owes him a lot in that dept I think, but it has to be the right time which I believe will happen when the curveball is revealed. She'll need to let owen know at some point that he has had a positive effect on her life, and basically has made her feel in ways she never did with Burke. She's past the immature, freaked out intern that runs at the sign of trouble. Yes, Owen jumped in front of her, but she jumped in feet first at the same time.
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Post by singer201 on Apr 25, 2009 23:41:37 GMT -5
I do agree that season 1 and 2 had good cliffhangers, and season 3 and 4 were much less by comparison.
Since we have spoilers that Cris and Owen spend a lot of time in the church, I'm guessing that is where Cristina's reveal to Owen/curveball/their reunion(?) takes place. The venue HAS to bring up strong feelings about what happened the last time Cristina was in a church at a wedding. With as close as Cris is becoming to Izzie, I wouldn't be surprised if she's one of Izzie's bridesmaids or even MOH.
Also, since we have cast appropriately dressed at the church for Izzie/Alex's wedding, I think Mer/Der nix the bridezilla wedding long before the last minute, and Izzie goes ahead to plan her own instead.
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Post by kaz on Apr 26, 2009 3:59:26 GMT -5
I guess I don't really see those things as huge cliffhangers - Addie showing up, Izzie walking out after Denny's death, Meredith telling Derek it's over - because I knew that the resolution to those things would take longer than 5 minutes. When I think of real deal cliffhangers that other shows have done, I think like season 1 Veronica Mars, opening the door to her apartment but then we don't see who's on the other side until season 2...that sort of thing. There are other shows that do that sort of cliffhanger but that was the first thing that sprung to mind.
I think Shonda leaves questions for the following season but I don't think she's ever left us hanging with a huge mystery to stew over for 3 months. I hope she doesn't start now because what I don't want to be left with is this:
- OMG is Izzie dead? - OMG is George dead? - OMG is Cristina pregnant?
Actually, the first two I don't really care too much about. I just want some measure of resolution for Owen and Cristina before we move onto season 6.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Apr 26, 2009 9:57:36 GMT -5
Yeah I guess it depends. In general I dont like labeling things as cliffhangers, they're too soap opera-ish depending on how they're used. I was more thinking of episodes that people think of when you say Grey's Anatomy those are usually the episodes that stand out in people's minds even if they don't watch the show. I think if Cristina's pregnant he will find out either at the wedding or right before it, esp if they end up going together. But who knows.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Apr 29, 2009 9:52:27 GMT -5
So i'm curious what happens between the 100th episode and the Season finale to make Owen reassess his place at SGH? Something has to happen aside from the patient. My guess is that he and Cristina get close again after the wedding, perhaps one thing leads to another, etc. and either Cristina or Owen freak out about the possible consequences of sleeping together again.
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Post by cl3me on Apr 29, 2009 12:36:16 GMT -5
I'm a horse racing fan, so if I were to handicap how the season wraps up, here are my bets (please note that I tend to play the long shots so no need to argue my bets, plus I tend to lose more than I win at the races, so let's just see how the race runs)
Bailey doesn't will be between a rock and a hard place - marriage in jeopardy if she pursues the peds fellowship. 5-1 odds
Alex/Izzie get married on the 100th epi - because really Izzie is planning the wedding of her dreams not Mer's dreams. Plus Mer/Derek need. Besides, it will be her dying wish to get married. Even money on this one.
Mer/Derek dont get married on the 100th because they are Mer/Chief/Derek/Thatcher are still battling. Mer/Derek get married in the finale instead on their terms - the kind of simple wedding they want - either in the chapel at the hospital or back yard of mer's house, with a party at Joe's after. 20-1 odds on this one.
The so-called pregnancy isn't Chris/Owen, as we've already had a preg on the show (intern). I think the possible multiple "pregnancy" ausiello is referring to is the fertilized eggs from Izzie. We find out that her eggs and Alex's swimmers were successfuly in fertlizing and the embryos are safe in frozen time for next season - does Izzie live to implant them next season? Considering the rest of the board figures it's Chris /Owen preggers I will make this a long shot at 60-1
Upset that Izzie marries Alex, George (who is still hung up on Izzie) is "mortally wounded" in the metaphorical sense and needs to get away from SG, and after Owen mentors him in trauma, he decides to enlist. Season finale will have him in the recruitment office. I just don;t think we have time for him to enlist, deploy, and get killed. THis is tv though, so I will put the odds on this one at 15-1
Mark/Lexie continue to be fluffy. Him commitment issues - he's never done a real relationship before. Lexie continues to be neurotic. That's a dead cert.
Callie/Arizona move forward. Callie can surive without daddy after all. even money.
Curveball. Just as Owen/Chris are talking again, George's announcement that he intends to enlist upsets Owen and set him back in this therapy. Then Owen's mum shows up unexpectedly at the hospital - as a patient. Owen has to re-assess his role at SG because now he is feeling like "he is no good to anybody" and wants to bolt, and now may have to go home, tansfer to another hospital, to help care for her. Good because he re-unites with his mother, bad because she is ill and bad because it may drive Chris/Owen apart. THis is assuming that pregnancy isn't the curveball, and alot to do with me praying they're not pregnant, so I will put really long odds on this one at 99-1
see you at the finale!
LOL
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Post by Leanne on Apr 29, 2009 13:23:29 GMT -5
LOL Cl3me thats a brilliant post ;D You have some great ideas especially the O/C curve ball its really feasible .....tote is open guys LOL next time I go to the races I'm contacting you first Ive been betting on just how cute the jockey looks no wonder I never win
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Post by Leanne on May 8, 2009 14:00:34 GMT -5
Ok well I ran my eye through the above posts and Marcy & Cl3me you hit the nail on the head Izzie and Alex got married
Cl3me also got George right he is definatly effect by the I/A union
Ok but now MA of EW says Curveball is not a pregnancy for Cris and Owen (throws hands up in the air) ....and we see Cris removing a ceiling fan plus a kiss in the finale ....
any thoughts on how this will pan out ......one week to go guys
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Post by cl3me on May 8, 2009 18:56:09 GMT -5
I'm going to let my initial bets ride. They're coming into the final turn to head down the stretch and most my picks are shaping up pretty well so far.
I'm feeling much better about the odds that the curveball is NOT pregnancy, but I don't think I quite have the real curveball pinned quite yet either.
This is also the point in the race when I don't really care if I'm right or not, I just want it to be a glorious finish. Surprise me even.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on May 8, 2009 19:39:33 GMT -5
Well to be fair neither shonda or ausiello said it was definately not pregnancy, they just said the blind item is definately not about Cristina and Owen.
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Post by kaz on May 10, 2009 19:49:15 GMT -5
Re the 'curveball', another possibility is that a patient (either Owen's mother or someone random) reminds Owen that the guy he was in the Before liked the adventure of being out in the field and he starts to doubt his place at SGH, especially in light of Cristina's hesitance last episode. Simultaneously, George is thinking about enlisting - enter the army recruiters. Cristina somehow hears about Owen's doubts and the army recruiters, puts two and two together and thinks Owen's leaving. The misunderstanding = angsty and bad but the outcome is that Cristina has to take a leap and make him stay which = good.
I reeeeally have no clue and am dying to find out what it actually is.
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