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Post by S5fan on Sept 8, 2012 12:33:19 GMT -5
I think the number of new people entering the show and staying for an indefinite amount of time is getting alarming.
5 new interns played by Luddington, Charles. Hinton, Ferrer, Majorino - this group is probably Shonda´s hope for Greys Season 11 ------? Dr Parker, Dr Johnson for Mayo Dr Barnett as head of Cardio at SGMW another new doctor Russell cast for 906 probably for SGMW
9 new characters, each of whom needs an introduction and some kind of build up which takes away screentime for the main cast.
I´ve read a lot of criticism on how on the one hand Rhimes is able to introduce a lot of characters but logically is not able to sustain and progress their storylines, hence we get lost in circles and repetitive storylines or characters are written into the corner and unable to make some progress or change or the whole time the focus is on one of their traits. The cast got trimmed from 14 to 11, in 906 there will be 20 characters on the show. Alarming, the show seems flooded with new characters! Rhimes has claimed they are not adding anyone new, she must be kidding, right?
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Post by ella1967 on Sept 8, 2012 12:55:46 GMT -5
Remember though that these are recurring characters - some to do work that will eventually again be done by folks injured in the crash, i.e. Derek and Arizona won't be operating anytime soon. Once those folks settle back into their professional roles those recurring characters will fade - just as a certain peds dept. chief did in S.7.
New interns are inevitable and show up for only brief scenes except for the original five - all the other interns/residents are simply backdrops for occasionally witty banter.
I also find it doubtful all characters will be featured in every episode so the likelihood of 20 characters - cast and recurring - is unlikely.
Some of these characters are necessary anvils who will, as a result, not get deep backstories or lots of screen time. They're there to prop up what the regular cast are meant to be seeing in their interactions with these characters.
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Post by S5fan on Sept 8, 2012 12:58:33 GMT -5
I don´t mean 20 characters appearing in one episode, I meant 20 characters theoretically being written for in the whole show in general from 906. I guess I didn´t express it clearly.
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Post by S5fan on Sept 8, 2012 13:07:37 GMT -5
Remember though that these are recurring characters - some to do work that will eventually again be done by folks injured in the crash, i.e. Derek and Arizona won't be operating anytime soon. Once those folks settle back into their professional roles those recurring characters will fade - just as a certain peds dept. chief did in S.7. New interns are inevitable and show up for only brief scenes except for the original five - all the other interns/residents are simply backdrops for occasionally witty banter. We don´t really know if either Derek or Arizona will ever operate again, Arizone maybe, but Derek´s injury seems more or less permanent (and we know P.Dempsey has a much much lighter schedule because of the racing in the new contract) Yes, new interns are inevitable. But I am afraid as Shonda will try to couple them up with the attendings - we need love for Alex, we can be 100% sure for April/Jackson/?? triangle with somebody so it is also inevitable we will see more of these interns, not just brief scenes, which again steals screentime, especially for the core couples, MD,CO,AC. We´ll see how it goes...
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Post by trinity on Sept 8, 2012 13:10:14 GMT -5
I'm not defending Shonda, but the only thing she said was that she won't be adding any new regulars on the show. All those are recurring cast which means they won't be in every episode. Did any of the interns from S5 had any back story? Nope. That she is adding way to many recurring, I agree with that.
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Post by S5fan on Sept 8, 2012 13:42:24 GMT -5
I see, she meant adding regulars. What if she meant adding regulars at the beginning of the season?
My humble prediction is that when the Season ends, we will have 14 regulars back - this new love for Alex will stay, somebody else will be made regular, too. I´ve read somewhere, can´t remember that some of the recurring might become regulars during the season. They could be just speculations though.
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Post by justine on Sept 9, 2012 4:05:18 GMT -5
They have to slow down the flux of the story telling other wise they will have nothing to tell by end of half of the season to come.
CO reunion has to be dragged on and they have to add news characters = new faces to inter act with the current cast in order to give some kind of " feeling" of fresh air in the story lines.
Nothing new at all since season 6, excepted they ended their contracts with 3 regular characters in order to have more rooms to play with guest stars and no headache with long term contracts. It is just 101 management rules. Guest starring is less expensive than regular staff. JMHO.
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Post by betinad on Sept 9, 2012 13:41:41 GMT -5
Looking at the number of new characters (luckily only one becomes regular by mid season- and I hope is whoever is Alex's romantic interest, the poor guy needs a little bit of good times! ) I can only hope that those help to tell the story of the main regulars , opening the door for exploring new sides of their stories. There is so much that can be explored and said if the only interaction is between the main regulars, so hopefully we get to see Derek/Mer/Owen/Cristina/Alex interacting with these new people and showing new facets of their personality ! sad to see that it seems our hopes to see Mama Hunt are less than slim now that the actress was hired for Scandal; and sad to see that amongst friendships it would be Derek/Callie interaction. I love Owen / Callie friendship! I want to see more of that !!! they are great together . so... less than 3 weeks till SP!!!
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Post by trinity on Sept 9, 2012 14:06:18 GMT -5
I see, she meant adding regulars. What if she meant adding regulars at the beginning of the season? How can that be? Any added cast is not made regular from the beginning. It's a recurring role then if they (ABC and Shonda) consider it worthy, it's made regular. That's what happen with Owen, Teddy and etc. the rest of the cast that was added through the seasons. She was referring to no adding any new regular cast this season. Whether that will happen or not will have to see. But she got rid of 3 characters so that she afford keeping the original cast, especially SO/EP/PD who got a considerable rise.
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Post by S5fan on Sept 9, 2012 14:37:10 GMT -5
sad to see that it seems our hopes to see Mama Hunt are less than slim now that the actress was hired for Scandal; and sad to see that amongst friendships it would be Derek/Callie interaction. I love Owen / Callie friendship! I want to see more of that !!! they are great together . I was so sad to hear she is playing a recurring character on Scandal, too. I wish Debra Mooney this opportunity but I would have liked to see her on Greys more, now as you said the chances are less than slim, she will be busy on Scandal in a multi-episode arc. I also believed we will see more of Owen/Callie friendship, too!
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Post by ella1967 on Sept 9, 2012 17:06:34 GMT -5
They have to slow down the flux of the story telling other wise they will have nothing to tell by end of half of the season to come. CO reunion has to be dragged on and they have to add news characters = new faces to inter act with the current cast in order to give some kind of " feeling" of fresh air in the story lines. Except I really think that getting Cristina and Owen back together isn't the end of their S.9 story,it's the beginning. Now I'm not saying they'll be on track in the first epi, I'm saying the bulk of their personal work and story for the season will be happening once they're figuring out how to move forward together. And while it may take them a few epis to be stable enough to both step into their marriage more solidly again, I do think it will start happening around the time November sweeps begin. They'll be settling into arcs by then for everyone - getting graduated residents back into dark blue scrubs, showing them as teachers instead of students, showing those injured in the crash starting to heal, and moving beyond the loss of Mark and Lexie and on into forward steps for everyone...including Owen and Cristina in their marriage. I don't think that the term journey refers to getting them back together, so much as it refers to how they reconnect within the context of their marriage once they're back in it.
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Post by ella1967 on Sept 9, 2012 17:14:36 GMT -5
Looking at the number of new characters (luckily only one becomes regular by mid season- and I hope is whoever is Alex's romantic interest, the poor guy needs a little bit of good times! ) I can only hope that those help to tell the story of the main regulars , opening the door for exploring new sides of their stories. We've heard several times he will be getting a new love this season so I'm thinking that story will be told for Alex. There is so much that can be explored and said if the only interaction is between the main regulars, so hopefully we get to see Derek/Mer/Owen/Cristina/Alex interacting with these new people and showing new facets of their personality ! I think we'll get both - how everyone supports each other post-crash and how the former residents step up as teachers, learn how to step into that role, how to share the knowledge w/ which they passed boards. sad to see that it seems our hopes to see Mama Hunt are less than slim now that the actress was hired for Scandal; and sad to see that amongst friendships it would be Derek/Callie interaction. I love Owen / Callie friendship! I want to see more of that !!! they are great together. Except Mama Hunt's role on Scandal is recurring only so she'd still have the option to be part of the SR rep company and show up on Grey's too,lol. I fully expect Callie to be a friend to Owen too as he will be supporting peeps post-crash. And with Mark's departure imminent and Arizona's injuries reported to be quite serious, I can see Callie maybe having some words for Owen about how Mark and Lexie thought they had the luxury of time to figure things out, that they wasted that time thinking they couldn't be together because they'd made mistakes and hurt each other, thereby providing some early season anvils for Owen and Cristina.
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Post by S5fan on Sept 10, 2012 0:11:00 GMT -5
Interesting news. Sandra Oh is receving Diamond Jubilee Award in Ottawa tomorrow, and her father is accepting in her honour. This means she can´t be there because she is shooting. Otherwise I definitely think she would go there. so my speculation and prediction is that as they are shooting tomorrow downtown LA, it must be Sandra shooting for 905 and in the sides there is a big storyline involving a car accident. Now I believe Cristina is the driver and she is the one who runs down a cyclist. There are many other characters, guest stars at the crash site...
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Post by ella1967 on Sept 10, 2012 0:48:20 GMT -5
Interesting news. Sandra Oh is receving Diamond Jubilee Award in Ottawa tomorrow, and her father is accepting in her honour. This means she can´t be there because she is shooting. Otherwise I definitely think she would go there. so my speculation and prediction is that as they are shooting tomorrow downtown LA, it must be Sandra shooting for 905 and in the sides there is a big storyline involving a car accident. Now I believe Cristina is the driver and she is the one who runs down a cyclist. There are many other characters, guest stars at the crash site... Well, there are two things in this post that this insomniac agrees with - that Sandra would be at the awards presentation if she could get away from work and that the sides for 9.5 feature a car accident. However, the sides show the injured and disoriented driver of the car who hits the bicyclist is being cast, as is the bicyclist. Also, both the driver and the bicyclist are initially treated on site by an off duty female nurse or EMT. So...it appears from the sides that Cristina is not implicated in the accident. Yet since she is a female actress on the show it is possible she is the disguised female staff person involved in treating those in the accident.
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Post by justine on Sept 10, 2012 1:38:23 GMT -5
Well, there are two things in this post that this insomniac agrees with Good morning ! Have been sleepless as well this night, should I knew you were here, I would have joined for a round of speculation ! Try to have some sleep, as for me, off I go !
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Post by Leanne on Sept 10, 2012 6:13:42 GMT -5
Ive not been reading the slides and Love catching up here I agree to that Oh would have been there to collect in person is she was not filming .... But we have had Cristina arrive on an accident scene before (when she snapped out of the PTS) would they resetup that situation again?
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Post by justine on Sept 10, 2012 8:41:23 GMT -5
I have not read the sides either but any possibility this time she is involved with the car accident or being the cause of the accident ? Just wondering about the spoiled pictures of Cristina and Meredith where tehy seem to argue in front of a RACING RED car. Does this has some meaning or metaphore ?
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Post by trinity on Sept 10, 2012 8:54:13 GMT -5
That doesn't look like a racing car. It looks a normal red car.
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Post by drwyatt on Sept 10, 2012 17:29:42 GMT -5
philip casnoff as Dr. Mel Barnett! cool! love him!
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Post by S5fan on Sept 10, 2012 23:48:23 GMT -5
Have you read the press release? What are your initial reactions?
Mine is, after reading it for 3 or 4 times is whether this should make me watch the premiere? Just the focus on the verb choice - learn to adapt, cope with losses, move forward....
This sounds really "exciting" - if I translate it for what it might mean for CO, not something that would make me feel excited to watch.
Stacy McKee wrote the 818 - the scene where Cristina throws the bowl of cereal. I understand the context of the scene, but it was very humiliating. It could have been written in another way. Yet mostly everyone applauds Cristina judging by the comments on youtube videos. McKee used to be one of my favourite writers. She and Debora Cahn disappointed me the most from writers if I look back and compare it with how they wrote for CO in Season 5.
Sorry, but I don´t feel good about CO´s future. The more the premiere gets nearer, the less I am interested to watch it. JMHO
I´ve been thinking why we needed this plane crash for CO actually?It changes nothing for Cristina, even before that we knew Cristina was leaving,the effect it had was to reinforce her decision to leave. Of course, her PTSD was put into action apparently. Sandra did great work on Cristina´s PTSD in Season 7, I see it as Rhimes giving Sandra Oh some drama material again. The strongest reason I see is that after this Owen will change his priorities and be lucky that Cristina stayed alive, and will fight to win her back and forget about ever having chidlren with Cristina.
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