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Post by kaz on Jan 9, 2013 17:42:12 GMT -5
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Post by kaz on Jan 10, 2013 22:26:33 GMT -5
Some questions to kick off your speculation (and remember, these are specs not based on spoilers).
What do you think Owen & Cristina's journey for the rest of the season will be? Marriage? Babies? Break up because they realise they really cannot get over their differences?
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Post by Leanne on Jan 11, 2013 2:39:55 GMT -5
sorry adding to the questions ... this popped up on twitter Im sure a few might feel like the tweeter but what do you think is on the cards to Owen and Cristina looking at Kevins tweets Attachments:
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Post by browncoatwhit on Jan 11, 2013 7:37:18 GMT -5
Interesting tweet! I understand Kevin's surprise -- no pun intended, but it takes people who can thinking outside of the box to understand that "divorce" in this case is not supposed to mean "over".
I do expect Cristina to have a reversal on the child issue, and to either come up pregnant, or for the couple to adopt before the end of the season. Maybe that's just wishful thinking, but I would not be surprised.
I think Shondra drove Mer/Der viewers crazy for a long while with the "post-it note" wedding. I think that now Mer/Der are being given a biological child of their own (because obviously, for some fans, an adopted child wasn't "real" enough -- a notion I find utterly revolting and an insult to all of the adoptive families like my own across the world... but I digress), I wonder if having C/O divorce on paper but mend their relationship and renew their lifelong commitment outside of a formal marriage is Shonda's plan? Sort of balancing Shonda's own personal scales, maybe? Just a thought...
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Post by drwyatt on Jan 11, 2013 14:14:37 GMT -5
A divorce on paper allows for a season ending declaration from Cristina that Owen is definitively her person ( maybe at the firehouse?). And if there is to be a season 10, we have a whole season for a wedding, or for what I dearly hope will be a CO baby. Not an adopted one, and not because I have anything against adoption, but Cristina is clearly capable of getting pregnant, and I believe that whatever her issues are, they are about the state of motherhood, not about getting or being pregnant. So if she resolves the motherhood question, it will be a biological baby. That hope I will never let go of. And it sounds like that whole issue might get explored reexamined before SF. They're both just enjoying the relief of not being estranged and angry anymore. But there's a whole lot to talk about.
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Post by mesilla on Jan 11, 2013 20:41:57 GMT -5
I too put my money on a CO kid. I have a feeling it will be a very strange situation...Like... Owen's sister we never knew he had crawls out of the woodwork then dies tragically but has a super cute 5 year old son who never met his father...type of thing. Feeling really good about being able to post somethings so crazy and out there and not be flamed.
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Post by hopew on Jan 12, 2013 9:58:15 GMT -5
I don't have a particular spoiler to tie this to, so I will post it in this thread. I've been thinking about where the C/O story goes from here now that the divorce has (supposedly) "reset" their relationship. I think you could argue that the first time around Owen was the one pushing for a more committed relationship. He went to her after her stupid offer to trade him to Teddy and told her "you don't get to toss me aside - I won't let you." He suggested moving in together; he asked her to marry him. When she had a melt-down the day after the wedding and handed her wedding ring back to him, he went after her and made that great speech to her at Mer's house about "not going anywhere" without her. He "saved" the marriage (for a little while at least) by going along with the abortion and holding her hand during the procedure. I'm sure we can find other examples a well.
But now there is no marriage to fight for; they are each "free" to choose or not choose to be together. (Which is kind of dumb, IMO, since they were certainly able to choose not be together when they were still legally married and in fact did, but that's another discussion.) So I wonder - - this time, are we finally going to see Cristina as the one seeking the relationship, pursuing him instead of the other way around? I would actually like to see that happen; that would make up IMO for a lot of the crap we've had to put up with for 1-1/2 seasons.
If that is the point of this reset - - so that Cristina can really choose to be in a relationship with Owen, with full knowledge at this point of what Owen really wants and needs from an intimate relationship and of how deeply she can hurt him if she doesn't acknowledge those needs - - then the rest of this season might be way more fun to watch than the beginning of it was.
There is some indication that we may be headed that way - - after all, Cristina initiated this reconciliation. And BTW she did that fully knowing that Owen still wants kids, which is why I'm not convinced, yet, that kids are completely off the table. And he didn't just say "yes" and rip up the divorce papers. By insisting on going ahead with the divorce, he is saying that although he still wants them to be together, he wants things to be different this time. That might mean he is agreeing not to have children, but it might mean that he wants her to be open to them. I think the door is open for either of them to change their minds.
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Post by duchovlet on Jan 12, 2013 10:08:07 GMT -5
I too have had this thought. And for quite a while, not just because of recent story developments: I wonder if having C/O divorce on paper but mend their relationship and renew their lifelong commitment outside of a formal marriage is Shonda's plan? Ditto, I don't think a baby is out of the realm of possibility. I've always seen that as an option SR has kept open. If visited, I don't think that is for a while - too much other stuff to cover - but it's not a dead issue. I think we will see things get tougher for Owen professionally and personally with regards to the other crash victims. He's the one core person ala crash that TPTB have not focused on in great numbers. His story time is coming. And that will be used as a device for C to stand beside him showing him (I think is WORDS plus deed) that she is his person. From that Owen will find strength to not go crazy, LOL. At the same time I think we will see C growing in some bigger leaps and bounds. It will be in ways she never thought about before, or maybe never thought possible or considered, but I think both she and Owen will be willingly accepting of the change and growth. I think we will see things play out against a backdrop of dark and twisty (this is Grey's afterall) but I do hope there is an ep (or more) of romance for romance sake.
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Post by duchovlet on Jan 12, 2013 10:30:29 GMT -5
sorry adding to the questions ... this popped up on twitter Im sure a few might feel like the tweeter but what do you think is on the cards to Owen and Cristina looking at Kevins tweets I love Kevin's tweets He always cuts to the point in such a gentlemanly manner w/o stepping on toes. As browncoatwhit said, I think it takes people thinking outside the box to understand. I think that is the whole crux of getting many, many Grey's storylines. SR is very non-traditional and also very traditional (at the same time) but in a non-traditional way. If you are a part of fandom that has trouble thinking outside the box, when called upon by the creators, you may have a tougher (and/or maybe less enjoyable?) experience watching Grey's at times. Sometimes 'thinking outside the box' comes with age and life experience. Watch GA in 5, 10, 15, 20 years from now - especially if you are of a younger demographic. I bet your perspective will widen, grow, possibly/maybe change, but at the very least you will have a deeper understanding and pick up on things you never noticed before. Age and experience afford you a broad perspective, a bigger palette, and more of an eye for varying hues of color and combination.
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Post by shygirl on Jan 12, 2013 16:34:04 GMT -5
I too think a baby is in the cards. Shonda has repeatedly emphasized that Cristina is an exceptional surgeon but she still needs to grow. We already see Cristina's growth from her interactions with Owen. Now that they have reconciled, maybe just maybe, a baby may be in the future. Not right away but say next season? It may be wishful thinking on my part.
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Post by kaz on Jan 12, 2013 16:44:56 GMT -5
Definitely think we are supposed to see that Cristina has changed. As pointed out by drwyatt in the episode thread, in the past few eps she has been the one to initiate communication and ask all the questions. She also criticised Owen for making a unilateral decision that concerned their marriage. Um, hello?? With that in mind, anything could happen. If she still doesn't want children I think she might at least be able to talk it through properly now. In the context of what she learnt from Thomas though, the fact he died alone etc, there is a good chance that she may have changed her stance on kids.
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Post by justine on Jan 13, 2013 11:07:04 GMT -5
This last episode let me confused. I guess I am not the only one, further to differennt comments from CO fans.
So the divorce absolves and frees them from being trapped in a marriage's rules, values and commitment.
Please can someone try to explain to me like I am a 6 years old kid. What are the differences between being married and being in a relationship, well excepted the piece of paper part ? Rules, values and commitment are not to be observed and respected in a relationship whereas in a marriage you MUST and HAVE to respect them ? Seriously ?
If so, then we have to reach to the conclusion that CO even in a relationship are free to sleep or having "sex buddy" with whom they want to. Owen can father children with anywoman he wants to and Cristina has to be OK or be indifferent to that , right ?! So the writer's definition of being in a relationship = no marriage = no tie = no obligation = no values to attend = absolute freedom.
Because as for as we are concerned the simple fact of being in a relationship requires that you have to bend to a minimum of respect, rules, values and commitment with each other.
As many of CO fans, I am confused by the metaphore of the BOX being used for the MARRIAGE and CO marriage being a mistake ?
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Post by kaz on Jan 13, 2013 16:48:30 GMT -5
Please remember if you are discussing what happened in the episode (and Justine and Tania most of your posts seem to be about the meaning of the marriage being a box) then the episode thread is the appropriate one. The only appropriate discussion for this thread is speculation on what might happen from now on.
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Post by mcscotty on Jan 14, 2013 1:57:35 GMT -5
I think Owen will get a motorcycle -- a big, badass Harley. He already has that attractive green-gray do-rag (surgical head covering). He will have an accident, nearly losing his life, which will make Christina realize without a doubt how much she wants to be with him. She will want to make a baby big time after that, but this time will have difficulty conceiving and be wracked with guilt for aborting their first (DRAMA). And maybe -- gasp! -- after the accident Owen is incapable of conceiving a child. O, the irony!
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Post by S5fan on Jan 14, 2013 16:19:40 GMT -5
I think Owen will get a motorcycle -- a big, badass Harley. He already has that attractive green-gray do-rag (surgical head covering). He will have an accident, nearly losing his life, which will make Christina realize without a doubt how much she wants to be with him. She will want to make a baby big time after that, but this time will have difficulty conceiving and be wracked with guilt for aborting their first (DRAMA). And maybe -- gasp! -- after the accident Owen is incapable of conceiving a child. O, the irony! I really like your idea with Owen riding a motorcycle. I am honestly puzzled how the kids´ issue will be solved on the show. Your ideas could fit in, especially if Owen became incapable of conceiving a baby. But he could still adopt a baby and be a dad. I don´t know...
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Post by Leanne on Jan 14, 2013 17:38:08 GMT -5
I think Owen will get a motorcycle -- a big, badass Harley. He already has that attractive green-gray do-rag (surgical head covering). He will have an accident, nearly losing his life, which will make Christina realize without a doubt how much she wants to be with him. She will want to make a baby big time after that, but this time will have difficulty conceiving and be wracked with guilt for aborting their first (DRAMA). And maybe -- gasp! -- after the accident Owen is incapable of conceiving a child. O, the irony! It certainly would work for me Mcscotty to get the whole issue of Cristina not wanting to have a baby and then changing her mind ... not sure for Greys writers tho you know Ive noticed there normally is a message/lesson in there storylines (for eg the abortion arce) thats why I find it hard to speculate im way to much of a romantic
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Jan 27, 2013 14:26:53 GMT -5
So do you think we will hear one of them say 'I love you' anytime soon? I wonder who might say it first and how significant it would be as far as them moving forward. I'm kind of hoping to hear Cristina say it first. We've heard Owen say it so many times, but she hasn't said anything near it in over two years.
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Post by drwyatt on Jan 27, 2013 15:19:11 GMT -5
I do think that is being withheld for significance at this point. I think once we get past the lawsuit situation, we have 1/3 of the season left. That's when I think they will move toward resolving in some way the bigger issues these two have. And I agree, I would like that declaration to come from Cristina. As well as, "you are my person. "
I wonder when we can expect a decision about a season 10?
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Post by S5fan on Jan 29, 2013 1:53:24 GMT -5
I would like Owen to leave and go on a mission to an African country, to escape all this madness and crazinesss of Seattle Grace, his genius scientist Cristina and the torture and struggle he is constantly put through and be the doctor to those in need and be happy for once.
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Post by kaz on Jan 29, 2013 2:15:59 GMT -5
I would like Owen to leave and go on a mission to an African country, to escape all this madness and crazinesss of Seattle Grace, his genius scientist Cristina and the torture and struggle he is constantly put through and be the doctor to those in need and be happy for once. Sounds good in theory, Tania, except that I doubt the powers that be are going to start a show revolving around Owen called "GA: Out of Africa", which would mean no more Kevin on our screens every week! If angsty C/O is the only way I am going to have a weekly KMK fix then I will take what I can get for now And yes, I think those of you who have said the "I Love You" is being withheld on purpose, could be right. I am also hoping we get verbal confirmation to Owen by Cristina of what we already know - Meredith is no longer her person and Owen is. I think that is where Shonda is heading with the Mer/Cris story, based on the last few episodes.
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