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Post by trinity on Feb 16, 2013 4:55:30 GMT -5
I too thought the first scene a little icky. What in the heck were they doing? Don't tell me. but seriously? Not sexy. Playful, yes, but still. I think that scene is as one says TOO MUCH INFORMATION....a little too much for network television...it just conjures an image which which we really dont want to know... may be thats why it was a little icky I certainly didn't have a problem with the scene.. And on the contrary I didn't see it as too much information. Because there's isn't any. Everything is implied there and left to our imagination. It's a little bit hard for me to understand how a scene like this is considered icky - where all that is shown is two people having great time together - but I have to sit through that whole Bailey's speech about her "sex on the beach" adventure and all the cringy details. Cos that was suppose to be funny. That was cringy to me, not this. I don't see how two people enjoying each other is seen as cringy, but that is just me. And I also don't think anyone was compromising there anything. Both of them were having great time giving and receiving the same attention. The scene from a few episodes ago where Owen mistakes Jo as Cristina, that was IMO completely unnecessary and really awkward. But this one, not at all.
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Post by raachel2008 on Feb 16, 2013 11:56:00 GMT -5
Oh, PLEASE.
And for the record, there was nothing icky about their scenes.
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Post by abbyfactor on Feb 16, 2013 15:36:48 GMT -5
It was foreplay. With emphasis on the "play". They could very well have had an intimate moment like 613 but we didn't see it onscreen.
There was a lot of good things for Cristina/Owen in this episode I thought. Especially Cristina constantly thinking of Owen and supporting him the whole time. I've been waiting a long time to see that from her and am interested to see how Owen finds out about it next episode.
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Post by kaz on Feb 16, 2013 16:43:59 GMT -5
Okay we have analysed the sex scene more than enough, people. Some found it uncomfortable to watch and others didn't.
Time to move the conversation along now.
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Post by deneeane on Feb 16, 2013 17:37:57 GMT -5
HA ! I love it
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Post by S5fan on Feb 17, 2013 8:26:53 GMT -5
I´ve been thinking that if Owen couldn´t get into the house, it means he doesn´t have keys, right?
But how did he get inside in 911 then? It seemed like he had a key then. Weird.
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Post by justine on Feb 17, 2013 14:34:36 GMT -5
I have just seen the clips in YT and fast forward the episode. All I can say is poor Owen ! No need enemy with such great friends !
Have you noticed how Meredith is the one who convinced Cristina to go with the whole crap ? I mean it should not be a coincidence that with her speech to Owen in SP season 8 she convinced him to give in with the abortion. Meredith appears to me like the evil whisperer to CO and is intoxicating CO in many ways like Teddy had been (but she's gone...).
Both friends had been toxic to CO relationship. Cristina and Owen are basically not good at exposing their feeling but I think that the continuous interference denies CO the opportunity to talk to each other, to see each other.
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Post by mesilla on Feb 17, 2013 15:24:15 GMT -5
Have you noticed how Meredith is the one who convinced Cristina to go with the whole crap ? I mean it should not be a coincidence that with her speech to Owen in SP season 8 she convinced him to give in with the abortion. Meredith appears to me like the evil whisperer to CO and is intoxicating CO in many ways like Teddy had been (but she's gone...). I did notice this. Makes me wonder if this portrayal was meant to show the mainstream viewers how callous Meredith can be when it comes to Cristina and Owen. Cause it was pretty obvious. The other times Meredith has stepped in it has been portrayed as a defense of Cristina. This was purely Machiavellian.
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Post by S5fan on Feb 17, 2013 15:59:58 GMT -5
I totally agree with the observations on Meredith and her manipulation tactics.
She was completely lost texting, calling Cristina and she ignored her all night long, she was with Owen. You can bet Meredith knew very well where she was, she can´t swallow that Owen is on Cristina´s mind all along the episode. Cristina knows it is wrong and wants to explain it to Owen, but Meredith again manipulates her saying it is for his sake. She doesn´t care about Owen - Did you see the look on his face? Richard will be fine. Cristina puzzled, corrects her. Also a nice parallel, we open up with Cristina not being at Meredith´s house, and being with Owen BUT we finish with Cristina sitting obediently on Meredith´s sofa and Owen alone crying out for Cristina. "Nicely" done Meredith! She is a wicked character.
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Post by MarryMeOwen on Feb 17, 2013 21:11:44 GMT -5
Cristina was not there because she wanted to be, she even repeated the phrase Owen used "Bitter Pills" When the financial adviser asked what their name should be. So her mind was with Owen, and far from that room.
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Post by kaz on Feb 17, 2013 21:19:44 GMT -5
Cristina was not there because she wanted to be, she even repeated the phrase Owen used "Bitter Pills" When the financial adviser asked what their name should be. So her mind was with Owen, and far from that room. Owen was the only reason Cristina was in that room - to save him from selling the hospital out, in an attempt to save it (because he thought there was no other choice). If Owen believed in Pegasus, I think Cristina would have stuck by his decision. But that candid stairwell conversation changed everything.
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Post by ella1967 on Feb 17, 2013 22:54:25 GMT -5
Owen was the only reason Cristina was in that room - to save him from selling the hospital out, in an attempt to save it (because he thought there was no other choice). If Owen believed in Pegasus, I think Cristina would have stuck by his decision. But that candid stairwell conversation changed everything. Just one thought past what I wrote in the recap - Meredith wasn't evil in this episode, she was clueless and very intentionally so on the writers' part. We saw at the end of 9.14 Cris and Owen in an on-call room together while the plan to purchase the hospital was being hatched on the roof. Cristina very purposely ignored her phone for quality time with Owen, just as she continued to do in 9.15. And in this week's episode, it wasn't just about sexy time with Owen, it was about being with him, listening to him, trying to calm him, being in it with him. Not only did Cristina ignore Meredith's calls and texts in 9.15, she also laughed off the 'secret plan' and told her to stop talking crazy and to support Owen's efforts on their behalf. They are showing us how Cris and Owen are a team and how Meredith doesn't yet get that or what it means and how what matters to Cristina is Owen. And there's a nice contrast for me between Meredith saying Cristina would go along with pooling their money to buy the hospital and Callie and Derek both assuring Arizona that Meredith would know what Cristina would do. And then they spent the whole episode showing us how Meredith has no idea what's in Cristina's heart or how she might react and Meredith's sort of peeved off about it. And Cristina doesn't care because again...she's team Owen! And agreed that Cristina is only in the room hatching the plan to figure out how to buy the hospital because she wants to shore up Owen who thinks there's no option but Pegasus,even though he isn't sure about the sale being a good answer for the hospital. She's trying to find a way to save the hospital and ease Owen's guilt complex at the same time, allowing him to relax and get back some of himself in the process.
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Post by browncoatwhit on Feb 18, 2013 16:09:09 GMT -5
Ella -- you are spot on with your observations! And I was so VERY grateful to finally see Cristina acting like a real partner to Owen! FINALLY! I don't think Meredith is being evil -- and I don't think the Grey's writer's room ever deliberately intend to portray Meredith Grey as being a bad guy! That's just our pro C/O spin (and some active Meredith-hating) going on on our collective parts here.
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Post by trinity on Feb 18, 2013 16:37:32 GMT -5
Ella -- you are spot on with your observations! And I was so VERY grateful to finally see Cristina acting like a real partner to Owen! FINALLY! I don't think Meredith is being evil -- and I don't think the Grey's writer's room ever deliberately intend to portray Meredith Grey as being a bad guy! That's just our pro C/O spin (and some active Meredith-hating) going on on our collective parts here. The same writers considered that Cristina having a sex friend is hilarious so they aren't really the standard as I don't think we are the ones with a problem here. Whether is the writers' intention or not, Meredith is portrayed like a selfish, spoiled brat who considers that everyone, especially Cristina has to revolve around her. It's not the first time when she takes decisions for Cristina, or assumes what is best for her without even bothering asking. What this episode showed is that Mer has no clue what Cristina wants and needs. Nor that she cares. She has mastered a craft in manipulating people, in getting what she wants. I'm glad to see Cristina not falling for that anymore.
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Post by drwyatt on Feb 18, 2013 19:52:32 GMT -5
Been thinking about this whole Mer Cristina thing.... I usually don't view Meredith as actively conspiring against Owen and Cristina anymore. I think that she has accepted that this is what Cristina wants, and is no longer campaigning against it. I do think that she is focused on the buyout plan, and trusting that Cristina and Owen's reconciliation is strong enough to weather the necessary subterfuge. Owen supposedly must be kept in the dark so that he is not subject to legal consequences. She reassures Cristina that they will help her make him understand, once the whole situation can be made clear. However, there was that weird comment, "Richard will be fine" when clearly Cristina was worried about Owen, not Richard. So that was odd, and I wonder if that will have significance or not.
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Post by S5fan on Feb 19, 2013 0:35:48 GMT -5
However, there was that weird comment, "Richard will be fine" when clearly Cristina was worried about Owen, not Richard. So that was odd, and I wonder if that will have significance or not. Precisely this. Just to add on Alex/Jo scene which I forced myself to watch, the example Alex gives is Meredith and Derek, co-workers that tried to avoid it but couldn´t escape the fate and had to be together, it was right. This lovestory which started as ONS is the role model of a loving relationship. I feel like an alien, because it is just crap what Alex says. I can´t take this seriously. Humbug. Why didn´t he give CO as an example? They didn´t pick each other in a bar and hopped into bed immediately, they developed their relationship slowly and gradually they got to know each other.
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Post by kaz on Feb 21, 2013 18:31:34 GMT -5
Hmm, okay thoughts on this episode quickly before the next episode airs.
I am completely, utterly, totally and thoroughly (is that clear enough?) over this hospital nearing bankruptcy storyline. Can we please get it over with? Thank you.
I am not as annoyed by the interns (incl. Jo) as everyone else is. I just have very little interest. I think Tina Majorino is great as an actor but even she cannot get me interested in anything the interns have to say or do. Like I said, it's not annoyance. Just boredom.
Don't really care for how CLUELESS Bailey is right now. When this all started, I thought she was the one person switched onto the fact that it was necessary to make changes to save the hospital. But this week she was just a yappy dog at Owen's heels. It was evident that he was struggling to keep it together and still she continued to badger him.
Essentially, everything going on right now is yawnworthy to me. The only good things to come out of this episode were as follows.
1. Owen's speech to the nurses 2. The exposition of the O/C relationship - the fact that we were clearly shown whatever Cristina is doing right now, she is doing for Owen. I loved all of their scenes together.
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